H.I.T.? Yates?

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ok, I have been reading about how Yates swears by the H.I.T. meth. Where you do only one set of an exercise. Has anyone had positive results from this (except Yates :)?
 
Mike Mentzer's HIT program is essentially the same way you most likey train now. It was just a way to market his name a little and bring some more money in.
 
yeah thats is true dont forget even though its one set per excercise they always count out the 3 or 4 sets of warmups for each excercise they do, but they dont take to failure for those. thats how he can claim one set to failure. Even though Menzter and yates did 16 sets for chest they only claim 4 sets total for chest the other 12 are called warmups and dont count.
 
Oh and yes I have had amazing results as has everyone I have ever put on it. Everyone I know uses it now.
 
You reading Heavy Duty or HIT? You do know they are different right? You also realize Yates wasn't on either, but his own routine based on it yet adapted for his GH and roid abuse.

HIT is one set, no warm ups. One set period.
 
I thought Heavy Duty was HIT? Even in his training video(right before he died) he related Heavy Duty and the workout he had his friend going through. Please feel free to clear this up for me, it's all news.
 
Yates did warmups however, he just threw on a plate each time, those were his "warmup" sets that didn't count.
 
No Heavy Duty was his old system, before his 15 years of practical application. HIT is very different both in frequency and intensity. Follow the link I gave above for his book on HIT.

Heavy Duty mutated after Yates but HIT remains solid. I currently train each muscle group every three weeks and haven't seen gains like this since I was 18 and on Heavy Duty.
 
It dont matter what HIT or HEAVY DUTY is you still have to warmup man!! I dont remmeber yates talking about going into the gym loading up 500lbs on the bench and saying GOODBYE to the gym staff after one set. I have not read Yats book, but Menzters book and YES, he did warmup and when he was training Yates he made yats warmup also with 3 to 4 sets of progressive sets. The only difference betweent he warmup sets and non-warmup SET is that the FINAL SET IS TAKEN TO FAILURE! Where as most folks take like 3 to 5 sets to failure.
 
Show me one scientifically proven study that proves warming up has any benefit what so ever. You can't, at least not one I can't shoot holes in with a machine gun. There is no benefit to a warm up set, in fact doing those extra sets both ruins the intensity of your real set as well as increase your chances for arthritis later in life. Just ask Sergio Olivia about that last one, the mans almost crippled.

You haven't read HIT obviously, so I have to ask why you are commenting in the first place?
 
warnups increase blood flow the more blood flow you have in your muscles the more you contract! I dont know where you get your info on NO WARMUPS either! I dont see joggers get up then jump outta bed then say see you later go jogging 26miles they do some kind of warmup. Same for anything else you gotta warmup! Yates did do warmups have you ever seen his training regimen he said WARMUPS. I dont eve know why you are even here talking about machine guns in the machine? WTF is that about? There is no scientific basis either for you HIT or Yates program. Nothing is legit what works for you wont work for the next person or all us be on HIT or YATES!
 
iamblue said:
Show me one scientifically proven study that proves warming up has any benefit what so ever. You can't, at least not one I can't shoot holes in with a machine gun. There is no benefit to a warm up set, in fact doing those extra sets both ruins the intensity of your real set as well as increase your chances for arthritis later in life. Just ask Sergio Olivia about that last one, the mans almost crippled.

You haven't read HIT obviously, so I have to ask why you are commenting in the first place?
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i'm just curious, can you show ME a scientifically proven study saying that warming up has no benefit?
 
Thats what Im talking about!!! how can you not warmup and Even YATES said he warmup up!!! Did you read some kind of underground Yates book written by someone else?
 
iamblue said:
Show me one scientifically proven study that proves warming up has any benefit what so ever. You can't, at least not one I can't shoot holes in with a machine gun. There is no benefit to a warm up set, in fact doing those extra sets both ruins the intensity of your real set as well as increase your chances for arthritis later in life. Just ask Sergio Olivia about that last one, the mans almost crippled.

You haven't read HIT obviously, so I have to ask why you are commenting in the first place?
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I know if i go to the track to do sprints and don't warm up, i am going to blow my hammy out. I know because i have done it. As far as HIT goes, i have not read it nor will I. It seems their are always a few guys who come on the boards preaching about HIT, and it probably does work for them, but the majority of people i have heard say they have tried it, didn't like it. With the exception of Mentzer and Yates, i don't know of any succesful bodybuilders who have used it, and they don't even folllow it completely, as everyone here says.
 
Lonewolf said:
i'm just curious, can you show ME a scientifically proven study saying that warming up has no benefit?
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It's impossible to prove a negative. Simple logic should have told you that before asking such a stupid question.
 
jcp2 said:
I know if i go to the track to do sprints and don't warm up, i am going to blow my hammy out. I know because i have done it. As far as HIT goes, i have not read it nor will I. It seems their are always a few guys who come on the boards preaching about HIT, and it probably does work for them, but the majority of people i have heard say they have tried it, didn't like it. With the exception of Mentzer and Yates, i don't know of any succesful bodybuilders who have used it, and they don't even folllow it completely, as everyone here says.
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I can show you 20 people that have blown hammy's out even with warming up. You prove nothing.

Saying it "works for you" is not a scientifi method. In fact it's ignorance of the worst kind. You might as wel break out the voodoo dolls and rub your self with chicken blood, maybe it'll work for you too.

Personally I think you're just full of shit.
 
jocktheglide said:
Thats what Im talking about!!! how can you not warmup and Even YATES said he warmup up!!! Did you read some kind of underground Yates book written by someone else?
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We are not talking about Yates you intellectually challenged fleeb, we are talking about Mentzer. Now run back to your troll cave.
 
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