Hallucinations after introducing Prami 2 weeks ago.

[ELicit23]

I'm getting fed up. I try to fall asleep by 11 because I have to be up at 6AM, but for the past 3 days I've been having the craziest lucid dreams/hallucinations.
I'm on Tren, but been running Tren for 2 years well past 700mg with no insomnia nor hallucinations. Right now I'm on 450mg a week. So that culprit is out. It's not insomnia, it's hallucinating shit and hearing shit and feeling shit grabbing me, seeing shit while falling asleep/ during sleep (lucid dreaming)

This is my protocol at night
T3 2 hours after meal.
15 minutes later Prami .25mg + keto 1mg + antioxidant axanthenthin
I've taken t3 and keto before, no side effects. Prami is the only culprit here. Do you guys think that mix between a Carnetoid antioxidant and Prami could have some chemical shit to make me go literally nuts at night?
Or is Prami known for that? I was on Prami .25 ED for a 2 weeks now it's .25 eod. Maybe too much Prami build up?

 

[Repo]

I'm not sure if prami would do that - it never has for me?

My sleep is a hit or miss, but I do know this... sometimes I'm up all night and try and
catch up on sleep - my sleep hits some weird stage - almost like I'm half awake but have
some wicked dreams - off and on - throughout the whole time and remember everything!

It does sound similar to me - I don't have insomnia but it almost feels like part of me...
- "is up, and coherent... while the other half is in that hallucinogenic state!"

 

[ELicit23]

I'm not sure if prami would do that - it never has for me?

My sleep is a hit or miss, but I do know this... sometimes I'm up all night and try and
catch up on sleep - my sleep hits some weird stage - almost like I'm half awake but have
some wicked dreams - off and on - throughout the whole time and remember everything!

It does sound similar to me - I don't have insomnia but it almost feels like part of me...
- "is up, and coherent... while the other half is in that hallucinogenic state!"

Exactly! I'll be down to see all kinds of weird cool triply shit yeah but not when I have to wake up in 5 hours! I had a moment where I saw Tupperware with brown rice and chicken on my desk, and I was on my bed reaching out for it. All of this going on while music is in the background (no actual music it was in my head) Next thing you know I "actually" wake up with my arm over the side of my bed. No Tupperware with food on the desk and no music at all lmao

 

[tury694]

Sounds like salvia effects. Serious question dude, does anyone in your family suffer from schizophrenia or a schizo affective disorder? Those sides sound nothing like prami sides, but more like salvia or high dose LSD side effects.

 

[ELicit23]

Sounds like salvia effects. Serious question dude, does anyone in your family suffer from schizophrenia or a schizo affective disorder? Those sides sound nothing like prami sides, but more like salvia or high dose LSD side effects.

Lol nah bro the only thing we have a history of of heart problems. Irregular heart beats. Got surgery for it when I was 13. Dude I was fine until I started taking that Prami I've read SOME stuff of other people having mild lucid dreaming on it. But not much. I'm gonna take a few days off Prami and see what's up.

 

[tury694]

Lol nah bro the only thing we have a history of of heart problems. Irregular heart beats. Got surgery for it when I was 13. Dude I was fine until I started taking that Prami I've read SOME stuff of other people having mild lucid dreaming on it. But not much. I'm gonna take a few days off Prami and see what's up.

Yes, the lucid dreams are a side effect. Maybe your dreams are so vivid that you think it is a hallucination or something. It probably is the prami, but I don't think you are hallucinating as I have been around people with paranoid schizophrenia having auditory hallucinations and they literally can't function and have the most frightened looks on their face you could imagine.

 

[halfwit]

Yes, prami can do this, although I'd get a sleep study done. What usually happens with dopamine agonists is that once the initial spike after taking it wears off, you may partially awaken. For most, this isn't a big deal, but as anyone with sleep apnea can tell you - waking up enough to be semi-conscious puts you into a very trance-like state.

This is also why Nyquil and pseudo ephedrine (sudafed) were a popular drug combo in the 90's. Cheap trips once you got past the taste of the Nyquil.

 

[ELicit23]

Yes, prami can do this, although I'd get a sleep study done. What usually happens with dopamine agonists is that once the initial spike after taking it wears off, you may partially awaken. For most, this isn't a big deal, but as anyone with sleep apnea can tell you - waking up enough to be semi-conscious puts you into a very trance-like state.

This is also why Nyquil and pseudo ephedrine (sudafed) were a popular drug combo in the 90's. Cheap trips once you got past the taste of the Nyquil.

NyQuil huh? I usually threw Zzzquil in the mix once or twice when I first started Prami. Wow. Could be that.

 

[Havasu]

I know a guy who had hallucinations once he was awake, and extremely vivid dreams after taking Prami. However, he didn't listen very well and took 1mg of prami the first time he took it instead of .25mg. I chalked it up to the high dose. He never said it happened again.

 

[JimiThing]

Man thats an extreme side. I tolerate prami really well. Ive heard of people getting harsh prami sides and the really vivid dreams but never hallucinations. Let us know what happens after you take a few days off of it.

 

[ELicit23]

Man thats an extreme side. I tolerate prami really well. Ive heard of people getting harsh prami sides and the really vivid dreams but never hallucinations. Let us know what happens after you take a few days off of it.

UPDATE: after 3 days of stopping Prami, last night I slept like a baby. Looks like E3D will be the protocol for me. Prami .25 in the morning now instead of night.

 

[cybrsage]

Prami puts me to sleep something fierce.