HCG help?
- Thread starter Session25
- Start date
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
is it pregnyl?
primo33333
New member
well... i think it is pregnyl because that is what was advertised by Z on his site...
it said hcg(pregnyl)
i did receive my order which i will be posting a full review soon, once i start my cycle in the next 2 weeks.
the thing is the labeling on the bottle is pure Chinese or something, so all i can read is the manufacture date/exp date... nowhere does it say pregnyl... its small its kind of a blue labeling and has a little symbol on it (company logo) but i dont know the company name.?
it said hcg(pregnyl)
i did receive my order which i will be posting a full review soon, once i start my cycle in the next 2 weeks.
the thing is the labeling on the bottle is pure Chinese or something, so all i can read is the manufacture date/exp date... nowhere does it say pregnyl... its small its kind of a blue labeling and has a little symbol on it (company logo) but i dont know the company name.?
primo33333
New member
i do not see a post new thread button... i dont know why...also i have no access to view private messages yet... why is that?
thanks for your help
thanks for your help
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
reason i ask is cause i just learned HUCOG and the other one, not pregnyl is only good for like 28 days.
primo33333
New member
so how long do you think pregnyl lasts in the fridge... im gonna email Z now. make sure it is pregnyl...
its just that he told me. you planned it wrong... that it only lasts 10-14...
weird
its just that he told me. you planned it wrong... that it only lasts 10-14...
weird
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
pregnyl will last 60 with bac, the other 2 only last 28
primo33333
New member
i 10000 iu amp? how long before that expires after mixed with BAC water...thats what im currently concerned with in my own cycle...
primo33333
New member
i got this from steroid.com
i got this from steroid.com
permalink
HCG CYCLES
As regards HCGs use of Post-Cycle-Therapy (post cycle therapy (pct)), smaller and more frequent doses after a cycle of AAS would give the best results with the least amount of side effects. A dose of 250iu to 500iu everyday (ed) for 2 to 3 weeks is plenty and should very little from person to person (3). The Physicians Desk Reference recommends 500iu/day, as did the late, great, Dan Duchaine. The smaller doses are sufficient enough to begin reversal of testicular atrophy and used in conjunction with nolvade, will help the already present problem of recovery without raising the levels of estrogen to high and increasing the risk of gynecomastia in the user. Lower doses of 250iu to 500iu also avoid the further risk of down regulating LH receptors in the testes. The old saying more is better definitely does not apply to the use of HCG. You dont want to finish post cycle therapy (pct) after using too much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) only to find out your back at the beginning again. Your best bet is to start at 250iu or 500iu ed for 5 or 6 days, and if you dont notice anything happening (nuts dropping and getting bigger) up the dose slightly. Small doses like 500iu two days a week isnt going to cut it like some people think. The only thing small doses of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) ay be useful (sublingually) for is reducing symptoms of benign prostatic hyperplasia (7). Yeah, thats right, you can probably reduce some symptoms of an enlarged prostate with the use of small doses of HCG.
As stated above the cycles of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) should be in the 2 to 3 week range with a least one month off in between, you could stretch your cycle out to four weeks without any major concern if you are using lower doses. One should however take care when using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as prolonged use could repress the bodys natural production of gonadotropins permanently, but this is mostly just pure speculation as it does not have yet to be reported nor has there been a case of an overdose. To be on the safe side shorter cycles of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) seem to be that of the norm. Most users cycle Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) near the end of a steroid cycle, you should start your Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) therapy on the last week of your cycle. For best results you should also run nolva while you run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as taking Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) by itself will do little to nothing and gyno even though rare may also flair up. Once the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) cycle is finished you continue with your usual clomid or nolvadex (preferably the latter) for post cycle therapy (pct) as it is more effective when used in conjunction Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for post cycle therapy (pct). With an AAS cycle of 6 to 10 weeks Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) may not be necessary unless extreme doses of AAS were used or there is an existing problem of testicular atrophy or you are running a heavy oral only cycle. AAS cycles of 12 or more weeks should have Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as a part of post cycle plan.
This is why it should always be used with a compound such as nolvadex. So although Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is essential after long or heavy cycles, it should not be used without an ancillary such as (specifically) nolv. Also Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) therapy should be discontinued at least 2 weeks prior to stopping the use of nolva, or it may suppress natural testosterone itself (5). This should not be a problem if you are running it towards the end of your cycle of AAS and before post cycle therapy (pct).
MAYBE ITS BEST JUST TO DO 250IU ED for 2-3 weeks leading into post cycle therapy (pct)...nolva during the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and in my case...discontinue nolva and begin TOREM/AROMASINE post cycle therapy (pct) for 4 weeks.
im on test prop/tbol at the end. so quick transition into post cycle therapy (pct)
please, feedback?
Read more: Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) - Steroid .com
i got this from steroid.com
permalink
HCG CYCLES
As regards HCGs use of Post-Cycle-Therapy (post cycle therapy (pct)), smaller and more frequent doses after a cycle of AAS would give the best results with the least amount of side effects. A dose of 250iu to 500iu everyday (ed) for 2 to 3 weeks is plenty and should very little from person to person (3). The Physicians Desk Reference recommends 500iu/day, as did the late, great, Dan Duchaine. The smaller doses are sufficient enough to begin reversal of testicular atrophy and used in conjunction with nolvade, will help the already present problem of recovery without raising the levels of estrogen to high and increasing the risk of gynecomastia in the user. Lower doses of 250iu to 500iu also avoid the further risk of down regulating LH receptors in the testes. The old saying more is better definitely does not apply to the use of HCG. You dont want to finish post cycle therapy (pct) after using too much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) only to find out your back at the beginning again. Your best bet is to start at 250iu or 500iu ed for 5 or 6 days, and if you dont notice anything happening (nuts dropping and getting bigger) up the dose slightly. Small doses like 500iu two days a week isnt going to cut it like some people think. The only thing small doses of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) ay be useful (sublingually) for is reducing symptoms of benign prostatic hyperplasia (7). Yeah, thats right, you can probably reduce some symptoms of an enlarged prostate with the use of small doses of HCG.
As stated above the cycles of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) should be in the 2 to 3 week range with a least one month off in between, you could stretch your cycle out to four weeks without any major concern if you are using lower doses. One should however take care when using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as prolonged use could repress the bodys natural production of gonadotropins permanently, but this is mostly just pure speculation as it does not have yet to be reported nor has there been a case of an overdose. To be on the safe side shorter cycles of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) seem to be that of the norm. Most users cycle Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) near the end of a steroid cycle, you should start your Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) therapy on the last week of your cycle. For best results you should also run nolva while you run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as taking Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) by itself will do little to nothing and gyno even though rare may also flair up. Once the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) cycle is finished you continue with your usual clomid or nolvadex (preferably the latter) for post cycle therapy (pct) as it is more effective when used in conjunction Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for post cycle therapy (pct). With an AAS cycle of 6 to 10 weeks Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) may not be necessary unless extreme doses of AAS were used or there is an existing problem of testicular atrophy or you are running a heavy oral only cycle. AAS cycles of 12 or more weeks should have Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as a part of post cycle plan.
This is why it should always be used with a compound such as nolvadex. So although Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is essential after long or heavy cycles, it should not be used without an ancillary such as (specifically) nolv. Also Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) therapy should be discontinued at least 2 weeks prior to stopping the use of nolva, or it may suppress natural testosterone itself (5). This should not be a problem if you are running it towards the end of your cycle of AAS and before post cycle therapy (pct).
MAYBE ITS BEST JUST TO DO 250IU ED for 2-3 weeks leading into post cycle therapy (pct)...nolva during the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and in my case...discontinue nolva and begin TOREM/AROMASINE post cycle therapy (pct) for 4 weeks.
im on test prop/tbol at the end. so quick transition into post cycle therapy (pct)
please, feedback?
Read more: Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) - Steroid .com
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
^^^^^ garbage
coolhandjames
I am b@nned !
damn.
From week 2: 250 iu's twice a week... take a week off somewhere in the middle.
Last shot: 500 iu's ED for 10 days. Then wait 4 days... start PCT.
HCG is simple stupid.
From week 2: 250 iu's twice a week... take a week off somewhere in the middle.
Last shot: 500 iu's ED for 10 days. Then wait 4 days... start PCT.
HCG is simple stupid.
primo33333
New member
oh boy. ok
thought stteroid.com had some good facts.
im still learning sorry
thought stteroid.com had some good facts.
im still learning sorry
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
there is good information everywhere. that however looks very out of date. Im not knocking the site, even our site here has some old articles still up.
primo33333
New member
do you know if z's stuff is pregnyl?
i emailed him and he said "|it is our brand" did not specify if it was pregnyl...
the vial is small (obvioulsy) 5000iu and all Chinese writing on it with a little logo in yellow. nothing specific with the logo just some yellow coloring. dont know how else to explain it
thanks
THE-DET-OAK
IncreasedMyT @ ULV
i dont know sorry.
primo33333
New member
how about if i did lets say 500iu weeks 2-6
week 7 break and get a new vile of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and split that into 500iu a from weeks 8-12...
so 5 weeks than 1 week break than 5 weeks.
than start pct four days after last Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) shot.
that way each bottle will last 5 weeks and i throw the rest away and start the new one for the last 5 weeks.
what are your thoughts
primo33333
New member
how about if i did lets say 500iu weeks 2-6
week 7 break and get a new vile of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and split that into 500iu a from weeks 8-12...
so 5 weeks than 1 week break than 5 weeks.
than start post cycle therapy (pct) four days after last Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) shot.
that way each bottle will last 5 weeks and i throw the rest away and start the new one for the last 5 weeks.
what are your thoughts
week 7 break and get a new vile of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and split that into 500iu a from weeks 8-12...
so 5 weeks than 1 week break than 5 weeks.
than start post cycle therapy (pct) four days after last Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) shot.
that way each bottle will last 5 weeks and i throw the rest away and start the new one for the last 5 weeks.
what are your thoughts
primo33333
New member
isnt 500iu ed for last 10 days a bit much, side effect wise?
how about this?
how about if i did lets say 500iu weeks 2-6
week 7 break and get a new vile of hcg and split that into 500iu a from weeks 8-12...
so 5 weeks than 1 week break than 5 weeks.
than start post cycle therapy (pct) four days after last hcg shot.
that way each bottle will last 5 weeks and i throw the rest away and start the new one for the last 5 weeks.
what are your thoughts
thanks for your help
tgerm
New member
When I first started planning my first cycle I remember reading a lot about HCG. I had it planned out for 500iu twice a week during weeks 3,4,7,8,11,12. Week 13 off and start post cycle therapy (pct) in week 14. Then 1000iu twice a week in weeks 14 and 16. I am no expert when it comes to this stuff though.
