HDrol or Andromass/bulk

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persiancat56

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Hey guys.
So im 20 years old, been training for about 2.5-3 years. went from a 135 to about 165.
Looking to run a cycle as i am trying to ad on 10 pounds or so to fill out and help in sports and for my job.
question; hdrol or andro?
I was gonna run hdrol with the post cycle therapy (pct) of forma and forged liver. but i heard some good things about andro? what do you guys think?
and would the post cycle therapy (pct) be the same for both?
 
persiancat56 said:
Hey guys.
So im 20 years old, been training for about 2.5-3 years. went from a 135 to about 165.
Looking to run a cycle as i am trying to ad on 10 pounds or so to fill out and help in sports and for my job.
question; hdrol or andro?
I was gonna run hdrol with the post cycle therapy (pct) of forma and forged liver. but i heard some good things about andro? what do you guys think?
and would the post cycle therapy (pct) be the same for both?
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I like to recommend to be at least 21 years old before taking hormones but you will do what you wish regardless.

I will say that AndroMass v3 or AndroBulk v3 is safer and can be ran for a longer period of time than Halodrol.

You will also minimize the suppression placed upon your HPTA, since Andro products have been proven to NOT fully suppress signaling hormones (lh &fsh) --(case studies were done).

There is still a post cycle therapy (pct) recommended to ensure all gains are solidified and endogenous test production gets back into over-drive.

-Matt
 
MattPorter said:
I like to recommend to be at least 21 years old before taking hormones but you will do what you wish regardless.

I will say that AndroMass v3 or AndroBulk v3 is safer and can be ran for a longer period of time than Halodrol.

You will also minimize the suppression placed upon your HPTA, since Andro products have been proven to NOT fully suppress signaling hormones (lh &fsh) --(case studies were done).

There is still a post cycle therapy (pct) recommended to ensure all gains are solidified and endogenous test production gets back into over-drive.

-Matt
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Would it be beneficial to run liver support as well as a post cycle therapy (pct)?
Or does the Andro not stress the liver?
 
persiancat56 said:
Would it be beneficial to run liver support as well as a PCT?
Or does the Andro not stress the liver?
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That is part of the beauty with AndroMass/Bulk ---It will NOT be overly suppressive on the HPTA, nor display harsh liver toxicity effects as seen with typical methylated compounds being sold.

You pay for safety and longevity.

-Matt
 
Sorry to jack this, but is it possible to run Andro for 5 weeks followed by 2 weeks PCT?

Or is that too short of a cycle?
 
XenoBuild said:
Sorry to jack this, but is it possible to run Andro for 5 weeks followed by 2 weeks PCT?

Or is that too short of a cycle?
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Xeno -- it depends on which ANdro product was used and if you were smart and only dosed it ONCE-A-DAY.

For instance if you used AndroDrive or AndroHard --- that would potentially cause less hpta suppression while ANdroMass or AndroBulk would have the potential to create more suppression....

For the lean, drive or hard ---an aggressive 2-3 week pct may suffice while AndroMass or ANdroBulk I would still suggest a 4 week pct...

-Matt
 
Richard Shagwell said:
Matt i saw on another post where you were also talking about a product called stanodrol. Is this another decent product?
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Stanodrol is a product by CEL that also is a DHT prohormone (same actives). The difference between the products is dosage and our delivery mechanism, which makes our product significantly stronger.
 
I agree with everyone else mdrol is serious shit and not for someone who does not have a lot of experience with PH. If you are dead set on taking PH now then take something that is not as harsh on your body
 
if you have to or must run a cycle use stanodrol. only 1 bottle of it. it is mild and hopefully wont leave you with any lasting detrimental effects.


but i know you prolly going to do it anyway so that is why i am telling you this.
 
very true im sure that he will do it anyways, i did and there are for sure long lasting effects my acne was worse then ever after my cycle and it is still haunting me. stanodrol is good stuff though i was very pleased with it when i used that PH
 
If you guys liked Stanodrol I would be curious to see how you would like new AndroHard since the potency is doubled since the last version.

-Matt
 
Stanodrol was a good first supplement but i am trying to find something stronger but will help me to cut up even though im sure the new stanodrol is good i am looking for something new to help get me lean but i am not trying to jack the thread. some over the counter PH work good for first timers too. i used to use animal packs m-stack and got great strength gains especialy since they sell it at gnc
 
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Z28mac said:
Stanodrol was a good first supplement but i am trying to find something stronger but will help me to cut up even though im sure the new stanodrol is good i am looking for something new to help get me lean but i am not trying to jack the thread. some over the counter PH work good for first timers too. i used to use animal packs m-stack and got great strength gains especialy since they sell it at gnc
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What are your goals, AndroHard is significantly stronger than the standard stanodrol dose.
 
Z28mac said:
Stanodrol was a good first supplement but i am trying to find something stronger but will help me to cut up even though im sure the new stanodrol is good i am looking for something new to help get me lean but i am not trying to jack the thread. some over the counter PH work good for first timers too. i used to use animal packs m-stack and got great strength gains especialy since they sell it at gnc
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stanodrol isnt a supplement. if you want to cut and go with the safest/most effective, i would go with AH/AL stack.


OP, at your age, i wouldnt do anything yet, but if you had to choose a PH, i would go with Androbulk followed by the TRS stack for post cycle therapy (pct). you could even take DAA on cycle before bedtime
 
Z28mac said:
Stanodrol was a good first supplement but i am trying to find something stronger but will help me to cut up even though im sure the new stanodrol is good i am looking for something new to help get me lean but i am not trying to jack the thread. some over the counter PH work good for first timers too. i used to use animal packs m-stack and got great strength gains especialy since they sell it at gnc
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AndroHard v3 -- 2 bottles for 8 weeks + ECA stack and you will be a much harder, stronger human being.

This stuff is Stanodrols "Father."

-Matt
 
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