hello everyone good to meet yall

[gymratral]

Hello everyone been around looking and reading and figured it was time to make a post and start getting to know some of yall.
I'm 34 5'10 and 200 lbs @ 7% bf. I've ran 2 cycles both being test 400 dbol and boldabol.my first cycle I did like almost every newbie...no pct and lost everything! I also happened to be one of the unfortunate ones that never could get levels back up and am now on trt.
My local source has dried up and after getting screwed over trying to order off web sites figured it was time to meet the right people to lead me in the right direction.
My second cycle was

Week 1-6 800 mg denkall 400 35 mg dbol and 500 mg boldabol
Week 7-12 800 mg denkall 500 mg boldabol
No pct just started back my transdermal trt

Which leads me to what I wanna run for my 3rd cycle and I'm open to suggestions on how to go about it. I want to run a test tren a cycle something like

250 mg a week cyp and start at 50 mg eod trena and increase a little evey two weeks till I reach 100 eod or sides kick in .
Will the cyp do fine or should I switcb to prop I've read both work well?

Once again good to meet everyone and look forward to heairing opinions!

 

[Fresh2death]

250mg a week cyp would be pointless...

 

[gymratral]

250 a week will put test levels above natural levels and test and tren fight for the same receptors..is that not correct? All I want the test for is to keep evergthing going.

 

[Fresh2death]

Sorry, didn't notice you were planning on taking tren as well. Most people don't mix long and short esters in same cycle. With prop you would be injecting on a more similar schedule as the tren.

 

[gymratral]

What would be the cons of running cyp if injecting as usual twice a week to keep levels stable?

 

[underpsi]

just another opinion here , sure others will jump in. speaking for my own experience, i have done tren with both test c and p. have noticed zero difference. did prop the first time just because i like prop and figured i was going to be injecting eod with tren anyway.

 

[gymratral]

Would like to use cyp for the simple reason that if my doc won't switch me over to injections I'm gonna just cruise on cyp between cycles...does that make sence?

 

[gymratral]

just another opinion here , sure others will jump in. speaking for my own experience, i have done tren with both test c and p. have noticed zero difference. did prop the first time just because i like prop and figured i was going to be injecting eod with tren anyway.

What was you dosing, test and tren

 

[Maintenance Man]

Hello everyone been around looking and reading and figured it was time to make a post and start getting to know some of yall.
I'm 34 5'10 and 200 lbs @ 7% bf. I've ran 2 cycles both being test 400 dbol and boldabol.my first cycle I did like almost every newbie...no pct and lost everything! I also happened to be one of the unfortunate ones that never could get levels back up and am now on trt.
My local source has dried up and after getting screwed over trying to order off web sites figured it was time to meet the right people to lead me in the right direction.
My second cycle was

Week 1-6 800 mg denkall 400 35 mg dbol and 500 mg boldabol
Week 7-12 800 mg denkall 500 mg boldabol
No pct just started back my transdermal trt

Which leads me to what I wanna run for my 3rd cycle and I'm open to suggestions on how to go about it. I want to run a test tren a cycle something like

250 mg a week cyp and start at 50 mg eod trena and increase a little evey two weeks till I reach 100 eod or sides kick in .
Will the cyp do fine or should I switcb to prop I've read both work well?

Once again good to meet everyone and look forward to heairing opinions!

Welcome to Ology Gymratral!

It seems to be quite the trend now to run low test and higher tren. The cyp or the prop will work just fine. You can shoot the cyp EOD with the tren ace if you wanted too.

 

[gymratral]

Never heard of eod injections with a long ester, would there be any benefit to doing so?

 

[Maintenance Man]

Never heard of eod injections with a long ester, would there be any benefit to doing so?

Nope. Its all the same. It would keep you from having to buy more gear if you already have it tho. A lot of guys run the prop for a quick kick like an oral does. Prop, cyp, or enanthate wont matter at all pinning EOD. You will just reach faster serum saturation levels with the prop. Hence the kick start

 

[gymratral]

Ok fellas here's another question. Tren a ed or eod I originaly planned 50 eod but would I be better off doing 50 ed?

 

[Italiano SPO]

Ok fellas here's another question. Tren a ed or eod I originaly planned 50 eod but would I be better off doing 50 ed?

If you don't mind injecting ED, have at it. I personally would do 75-100 EOD if your using Ace but that's because I don't care to be pinning ED. If it's your first time using Tren, you can get good results off as little as 200mg EW but I'd stick with around 300mg EW minimum. Tren is some strong stuff and is my favorite. Low test and higher Tren works well. You'll do good with it.

 

[gymratral]

Thanks italiiano! I'm thinking ed seems people have left sides going ed?

 

[Italiano SPO]

Thanks italiiano! I'm thinking ed seems people have left sides going ed?

I'm not an expert on short esters because I never use them. I can't say for certain what and if your sides will be if any when pinning ED vs EOD. I have always used long esters because I don't like having to pin ED. Lots of it is trial and error so nobody can say definitively anyway what you will experience, if anything. All I can say is, you aren't doing anything wrong whether you choose ED or EOD. You more than likely won't know about sides until you try one way vs the other and compare.

 

[Flegias]

Ciao sei italiano? ti ho inviato un sms privato ma non ho accesso Aromatase inhibitor (AI) messaggi ancora e volevo scambiare 2 chiacchiere :/

 

[gymratral]

Ok guys tomm will be the end of week 2 I started first week...250mg a week cyp and 50mg ed tren. I know I jumped the gun but I saw nothing and start of week two bumped up to 375mg a week cyp and 75 ed tren and still not seeing a lot. First question I have is should tren a have a lot of pip? This stuff feels worse than 400 and I'm pinning ed! 2nd question shouldn't I be seeing some good results on that dose by now? My cyp is good I can tell I'm running above my trt dosage so what do you guys think does it sound like bunk gear or do I need to sit back and give it some more time?