Help for a noob?

CH20

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Hello all.
I am new to this forum.
A little about me.

6 foot
160 pounds
bf% 8
20 years old.
Natural athlete all my life
I've been hitting the gym since I was 14, always wanted the sexy ripped not to bulky look.. it's just hard to define what I want.
I've been looking into steroids, before and after pictures and I am willing to try it.
been reading a lot on it to be safe, but can't get what Im looking for.
this would be my first cycle and I want it done safely and done correctly.
I would like to bulk up and have endurance so when Im off my cycle I can keep the flow of what the roids helped with.
I'm not a real big guy, but I am strong. I want to bulk up first but not to much so I can naturally cut my muscles, just bulking is really hard cause of my metabolism
anyway.. my plan is to bulk, get off the cycle and keep it flowing till I feel the need to get back on it at a safe time.

help? - I read that test/dbol is a good cycle? but I don't trust everything I see.
Please tell me whats a good FIRST cycle to get that bulk, and something that wont just go away after im off of it.
and im confused about pct. please tell me all the info I need to do this safely!
and please try to make it literate for a noob. (;
Much appreciated!
if anyone knows a good place to buy like a package deal that would be nice, but im a little sketchy I don't want to become injured by fake drugs.

OH. and NO needles.. Don't need my wife seeing them thinking I do heroin..
 
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Hi. Test e and dianabol would be a Very sensible first cycle. U will get a puffy look without the use of ancillaries or serms. That is arimidex or nolvadex on cycle. But the puffyness would go after cycle anyway. Pct for such a cycle could be nolvadex and Clomid. Hcg could also be used. As for the no needles. You could be struggling to do test without them. And oral only cycles are actually worse for u than injections. (very liver toxic and Ur less likely to keep gains without test.)
 
There is no sensible cycle at your age. You most likely won't listen but just plz research this a lot more. You are not done developing and your going to throw your hormones out of whack and shut down natty test production for months. GL be smart about this plz.
 
Bro your first cycle should be testosterone only period!
Not test/dbol or anything else plus the no form of oral test the produces results so injections are a must if you still wish to continue your cycle should be something like this
Testosterone ethanate 600mg/week 12 weeks
Aromasin 12.5mg ed 17 weeks
Pct
23 days after last pin of test
Clomid 50/50/50/50
Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
 
Hi. Test e and dianabol would be a Very sensible first cycle. U will get a puffy look without the use of ancillaries or serms. That is arimidex or nolvadex on cycle. But the puffyness would go after cycle anyway. Pct for such a cycle could be nolvadex and Clomid. Hcg could also be used. As for the no needles. You could be struggling to do test without them. And oral only cycles are actually worse for u than injections. (very liver toxic and Ur less likely to keep gains without test.)

Arimidex is an Aromatose imhibitor and nolvadex is a serm they are not the same and CANNOT BE USED TOGETHER adex can be used alone during cycle and discontinued just before pct
Personally I'd use aromasin As it can be stacked with a serm if necessary
 
Hello all.
I am new to this forum.
A little about me.

6 foot
160 pounds
bf% 8
20 years old.
Natural athlete all my life
I've been hitting the gym since I was 14, always wanted the sexy ripped not to bulky look.. it's just hard to define what I want.
I've been looking into steroids, before and after pictures and I am willing to try it.
been reading a lot on it to be safe, but can't get what Im looking for.
this would be my first cycle and I want it done safely and done correctly.
I would like to bulk up and have endurance so when Im off my cycle I can keep the flow of what the roids helped with.
I'm not a real big guy, but I am strong. I want to bulk up first but not to much so I can naturally cut my muscles, just bulking is really hard cause of my metabolism
anyway.. my plan is to bulk, get off the cycle and keep it flowing till I feel the need to get back on it at a safe time.

help? - I read that test/dbol is a good cycle? but I don't trust everything I see.
Please tell me whats a good FIRST cycle to get that bulk, and something that wont just go away after im off of it.
and im confused about pct. please tell me all the info I need to do this safely!
and please try to make it literate for a noob. (;
Much appreciated!
if anyone knows a good place to buy like a package deal that would be nice, but im a little sketchy I don't want to become injured by fake drugs.

OH. and NO needles.. Don't need my wife seeing them thinking I do heroin..




She wont think your doing heroin, They are big manly looking needles. Married at 20?
 
No needles? No cycle...oral only is a no no, so just keep at it natty. You're too young anyway...23 minimum (with more weight).
 
I agree with the comments above. However, many of the people seeking advice her are hardheaded so I think it best to pass on knowledge along with advice. My advice is, give it another year or two. Second, when you do cycle, at least start out with test alone, even if you only give it 4-6 weeks of just testosterone. It is best not to stack steroids right off the bat. Test is the best and should provide the base of all cycles.

I won't say that all oral cycles are totally useless, but I will say that if you're going to use steroids you owe it to yourself to make friends with injectable testosterone.
 
My goal with this is only to be safe.
You guys are right, I should just wait.
No rush! I appreciate the information, and I am writing it down so when I am of an older age I will have it.
Thank you guys!
 
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