Help! Low E2 or High E2?

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So I've been on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for 3 months now. 200mg/W broken into two shots a week. 250iu Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 2xW. I have been cruising along feeling like a million bucks. Put on 15lbs of lean muscle/water and have had tons of energy. It's been everything I had hoped for.

I have been getting away with not using an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). I have not (for the first to months) had any symptoms of T=>E2 conversion. I had some gyno in college from a cycle so I know what to look for.

Once in a while I will pop an Anastrozole if I start to feel sluggish. However, I think my sluggishness has been due to over-training legs. I'm always useless for a couple of days afterward.

I gave blood last week to thin out my oil. I was feeling really sluggish too. I took .5mg of adex the next day. The next day I felt great. Then I crashed. I took another adex last Thursday and again last Friday. I can't get out of bed today. Here's my question: Am I suffering from low E2? Did I never need the adex in the first place? Or am I suffering from high E2 and I haven't been taking enough?

How long will it take my E levels to come back if they are too low?

 

[cjw2021]

Are you on cypionate? Try aromasin 12.5mg eod or 3rd day

 

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Yes. Test C. Been thinking about using aromisin, but it's convenient to order anastrozole from Chip. I need to get a blood test to get an accurate picture of how my protocol has been working.

Thanks.

 

[cashout]

Yes. Test C. Been thinking about using aromisin, but it's convenient to order anastrozole from Chip. I need to get a blood test to get an accurate picture of how my protocol has been working.

Thanks.

Yup. Get your blood work done to see where you stand.

I had a little issue with Adex so I recently switched to Asin.

I mentioned in another thread that i was getting spikes and troughs with Adex and we (my doc and I) couldn't seem to get my E2 leveled out in the range where we wanted it. I started Adex with a M/Th 1mg per scheduled and was not enough. Apparently, my body was getting frisky with the test and converting more than I wanted to E2. So we switched to .5 Adex EOD and the results were not much better. Finally, I went to .5 every day and bottomed my E2 completely.

My doc suggested we try Asin and I have used that at 12.5 mg M/W/F and that seems to have done the trick. I've used that protocol for about 2 months now and my E2 is right at 22 - where we want it.

Asin is a steroidal suicidal inhibitor and some folks respond better to those than Letro or Adex.

Hope that helps.

 

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Cashout,
thanks for the response.

I figured since I'm lean that I wouldn't need an Aromatase inhibitor (AI). I'm surprised to see that someone as lean as you is till aromatizing test that quickly. I'm going to stop the adex, get bloods, then reassess.

Thanks.

 

[Packgus]

if your a client of Chip I dont understand why you were not on Anastrozole right from the begining? did you discuss this with Chip in the begining? just curious

 

[mlc31]

blood work will answer all questions.

 

[CHIP WADOWSKI]

PINNER....

BRO, AND Aromatase inhibitor (AI) NEEDS TO ESTABLISH BALANCED SERUM LEVELS IN YOUR SYSTEM JUST AS ANY OTHER DRUG DOES. IF YOU JUST POP ONE HERE AND THERE, CHANCES ARE YOU'LL BE ON AN "E-COASTER", JUST THE SAME AS IF YOU JUST DECIDED TO PIN SOME TEST HERE AND THERE.... YA DIG? UGH!!!

C'MON JEDI GWASSHOPPA.... YOU MUCH MORE SMARTER DEN DAT!

 

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if your a client of Chip I dont understand why you were not on Anastrozole right from the begining? did you discuss this with Chip in the begining? just curious

Because I'm sub 10% body fat. I figured I wouldn't need it. Based on my experience it looks like I don't. I will need to get labs to know for sure. I'm feeling better today.

I think I've been mistaking over-training with high E2 and that's why I've been popping an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) as needed. Or so I thought.

How long does anastrozole take to clear the system?

 

[cashout]

Because I'm sub 10% body fat. I figured I wouldn't need it. Based on my experience it looks like I don't. I will need to get labs to know for sure. I'm feeling better today.

I think I've been mistaking over-training with high E2 and that's why I've been popping an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) as needed. Or so I thought.

How long does anastrozole take to clear the system?

Body fat has very little, if any thing, to do with the conversion of Test to Estrogen.

I've always had exceptionally low body fat but have had an inclination to aromatize test quickly.

I was a really skinny kid at 13 years old when I started to experience prepubescent gynecomastia.

When I was competing and even today, when my estrogen gets high, I don't get fat, bloated, or hold water. I just start to develop gynecomastia.

 

[MoparMuscle]

PINNER....

BRO, AND Aromatase inhibitor (AI) NEEDS TO ESTABLISH BALANCED SERUM LEVELS IN YOUR SYSTEM JUST AS ANY OTHER DRUG DOES. IF YOU JUST POP ONE HERE AND THERE, CHANCES ARE YOU'LL BE ON AN "E-COASTER", JUST THE SAME AS IF YOU JUST DECIDED TO PIN SOME TEST HERE AND THERE.... YA DIG? UGH!!!

C'MON JEDI GWASSHOPPA.... YOU MUCH MORE SMARTER DEN DAT!

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