HELP WANTED! Beginner User

[Parsons]

Hello Everyone!

I have been working out on and off since i was in grade eight! i have been into the iron for about 2 years consistantly now. I have always pondered the idea of steroids but thought NO WAY. i have several friends now that have used roids and I have also warmed up to the idea of using needles. My goals are easy i want to gain a little more weight and look great! its not all about strength with me, although i would love to bring my max Bench up from 305 to 365.

Here's What I've Got.....

Trenbolone Acetate - 20 mL. 75 mg/mL
Boldenone Undecylenate - 20 mL.100 mg/mL
Enanthate (test) - 10 mL - 250 mg/mL

All Gear is from the amazingly packaged Nupharm UG lab.

My stats are:
Age - 24
Height - 5' 5"
Weight - 160lbs
body fat % - approx 10-12%

I have done research on the products i've got and the UG lab i got them from, now just one question remaining..

My question to all you knowledgable bodybuilders and experienced gear users is...

How should i do the cycle? I have the gear but i have no idea how to use it or how much to use per injection or how frequently to inject?

I greatly would appreciate your honest opinions and your knowlegable answers to my questions as my brain is not as advance in the subject as yours. Thanks to ALL..

 

[sean usmc]

well i can say that at first cycle u need test ...fuck it in all cycles i would advise test depending how long you want to run the cycle for..determines the kind of test to offer...

 

[Cakalac]

You have some good products bro. I know this is not what your wanting to hear but I would do test only. 400mg/wk for 8 wks. So that tells you that you need more test. I would then wait till the next cycle and do test/tren for 10wks. Then the next one I would do the test/EQ. I wouldn't do them all together. YOu have no idea what is causing your sides if you have any. Plus tren for a first cycle is pretty strong. I would do test only. You will be amazed at your gains from that if diet is right. REMEMBER! Diet must be right to grow, just the juice won't do it.

THis way you actually have 3 cycles to get you into summer:
1st-test
2nd-test/tren
3rd- test/EQ

Again you really don't have enough to do all that so you'll have to have more. Also you need post cycle therapy (pct). Do you have Nolva? Clomid? or Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG)? Which ever one you want to use, but you need something.

NOTE: Most are going to tell you that you need to go natural and leave the anabolics alone. Just eat eat eat. But you have your stuff and are probably going to do it anyway. I wouldn't do anything unless you get your post cycle therapy (pct) in order or your wasting your money and your health!

 

[sean usmc]

usually i start my nolva mid point of my cycle thats just the way i do it...

 

[Parsons]

okay i'll grab more test e.

so i should do as follows?:

cycle 1- test e for 8 wks @ 400 mg per week
cycle 2- test e and tren for 10 wks @ ?
cycle 3- test e and EQ for ? @ ?

I still have a few more blanks here boys. Also post cycle therapy (pct) is post cycle therapy right? so is that what nolva, clomid and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) are used for??? and when should i start them how much how long etc..

you guys are being a hudge help here! cheers..

 

[sean usmc]

that dosn,t sound bad at all bro...

 

[Cakalac]

okay i'll grab more test e.

so i should do as follows?:

cycle 1- test e for 8 wks @ 400 mg per week
cycle 2- test e and tren for 10 wks @ ?
cycle 3- test e and EQ for ? @ ?

I still have a few more blanks here boys. Also post cycle therapy (pct) is post cycle therapy right? so is that what nolva, clomid and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) are used for??? and wehn should i start them how much how long etc..

you guys a being a hudge help here! cheers..

Go to some of the stickies in this forum and on the board for PCT. I like Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) through out the cycle. Yes that cycle plan looks a lot better. Just read around before you stick yourself the first time and be comfortable with what your doing.

You may need Nolva during your cycle depending on how you react to the test. I only use it during when I feel onset of gyno. If you use it after you will start it 2 wks after your last shot of test and start with a dosage and work your way up. Just read you'll find it all there!

 

[sean usmc]

yeah thats how i run my nolva too.....but it looks to be a solid cycle (s)

 

[Parsons]

how much mg of test should i take in my second and third cycles?

also how much Tren and Eq is sugested in my 2nd and 3rd cycle?

whats a recomended nolva dosage and how long to i run it for?

ps thanx again for your help

 

[StoneColdNTO]

how much mg of test should i take in my second and third cycles?

also how much Tren and Eq is sugested in my 2nd and 3rd cycle?

whats a recomended nolva dosage and how long to i run it for?

ps thanx again for your help

Slow down a little.....you're getting way ahead of yourself.

 

[Cakalac]

how much mg of test should i take in my second and third cycles?

also how much Tren and Eq is sugested in my 2nd and 3rd cycle?

whats a recomended nolva dosage and how long to i run it for?

ps thanx again for your help

Yeah bro, there are many different ways you can do a cycle and PCT. My body may be totally different than yours and react a different way. Just read around and you will find plenty of information. I gave you a basic layout of how your cycles should look. post cycle therapy (pct) can be done a few different ways. Just read and you will learn a lot. As you read you will find out the guys here you can trust and beleive. Check how many post they have made to give you an idea of how long they have been active on the board sharing knowledge. That doesn't mean they are right but at least they aren't some newbie on here running thier mouth. Just relax and take your time and get the right information.

 

[phate186]

bro, how bout posting your diet, that will be the determining factor in the gains you make, so before you think about cycling, let's get your diet on point

 

[Parsons]

i'll get back to the researching. Im just trying to peice every aspect together the best possible way before i make the final decision to play darts or not.

with all of your posts im able to slowy gather more helpful information to research so i can structure my experience from day one right up to the finishing touch!

as for my diet..... lots of protein,carbs and healthy fats 5 meals a day accompanied with a couple shakes, multi vitamins and lots of water, i try to stay away from fast foods/garbage foods, alcohol etc.

 

[Cakalac]

"fail to plan, plan to fail"

 

[Parsons]

thats right, i'll keep posting all my ideas as they get generated as well as how i plan to run through this experience to get all of you suggestions and recommendations to make this a mistake free, feel good experience, before i even make the decision you use the gear i have.

 

[Cakalac]

yes, come up with what you like and post it. there are some assholes on here that are arrogant that may flame you but just ignore the attitude even though they may have something valid to say. I can tell you right now with your inexperience you are going to get those asshole post. Just listen and don't shy away from asking.

 

[phate186]

yes, come up with what you like and post it. there are some assholes on here that are arrogant that may flame you but just ignore the attitude even though they may have something valid to say. I can tell you right now with your inexperience you are going to get those asshole post. Just listen and don't shy away from asking.

sadly this is true everywhere


with regards to the original poster, the only stupid question is the one that goes unasked

but as i said before, write down everything you eat tomorrow and the amount and post it and i'll help you tweek it so you can start increasing gains now, as opposed to when you start your cycle whenever that will be

 

[Parsons]

thanks for the heads up. and yah no worries i got tough skin lol

 

[juced_porkchop]

okay i'll grab more test e.

so i should do as follows?:

cycle 1- test e for 8 wks @ 400 mg per week
cycle 2- test e and tren for 10 wks @ ?
cycle 3- test e and EQ for ? @ ?

I still have a few more blanks here boys. Also post cycle therapy (pct) is post cycle therapy right? so is that what nolva, clomid and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) are used for??? and when should i start them how much how long etc..
dont listin to sean i dotn think he saw this is your FIRST cycle. i wouldent touch tren for many cycles. its one of the harshet steroids there is. sides are unbeleaveble fo some. :search "tren sides or sode effects"

for first cycle you shouldony use 1 typ at a time so you knwo how u react to it eg test then next cycle s add somthign and if you wish add 1 thing at a time thru your cycles but DONT use a bunch of new stuff. if you get gyno you wont knwo what it was from maybe how to stop it tren is prog based gyno not liek test or eq. so you would fix or control it a bit diffrently.

first cycle:
test e/cyp 400-500mg every week wk1-12
PCT nolva wk14-29 wk1-2 30mg ed wk3-4 20mg ed
"you better know what post cycle therapy (pct) is!"


dont ever use a bunch of stuf new at once one at a tiem to see if you react bad to it. liek toomuch acne and cant sleep or what ever.

 

[Parsons]

thanx for the input porkchop. everythings helpful.
is Tren really that bad??
i ve never heard or read anything to negative about it yet.

cheers.