Help with a second cycle.

[Jello Biafra]

I currently have three weeks left on my cycle consisiting of 500mg Enathate for 10 weeks. After this cycle, I'm going to wait for 10-15 weeks for my next. But I need ideas for a second cycle since I'm going to buy the supplies in a few weeks.

I have anything available. What would you reccomend? I was thinking something like,

500mg or 750mg Sustanon (sust) 1-10
400mg Deca 1-10

My stats are 5'11" at 254lbs. With about 18% bf(after bulking). I'm also on a-dex for my current cycle so I have no water retention.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

I take it you want to continue to bulk or at least do a lean mass cycle.

If you add Deca, there's no reason to increase the Test, just leave it at 500 mg/week.

 

[Jello Biafra]

Yeah, I want to continue bulking. Thanks Stone.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

What was your starting weight ??

 

[Jello Biafra]

226lbs after cutting and depletion. I blew up, it's awesome.

 

[Jello Biafra]

I have really heavy bones too. That's the main reason that I am so heavy.

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Yep.....some real nice gains.

 

[Jello Biafra]

How long should I be "off" for before starting the next cycle. I know it should be for as long as your cycle was. Could it be started sooner?

 

[StoneColdNTO]

How long should I be "off" for before starting the next cycle. I know it should be for as long as your cycle was. Could it be started sooner?

I'd have to say 6-8 weeks AFTER you have finished PCT.

 

[Jello Biafra]

That's what I figured. Thank you, sir.

 

[JohnnyB]

Hate to interrupt, but I agree keep the test at the same dose

JohnnyB

 

[Jello Biafra]

Should I get individual amps or 10ml vials? Which one is easier?

Also, how do you open an amp and aspirate the gear?

 

[StoneColdNTO]

Also, how do you open an amp and aspirate the gear?

I really hope you're joking on the aspiration thing, you are already on cycle and best be doing it with every single injection.

 

[Jello Biafra]

I really hope you're joking on the aspiration thing, you are already on cycle and best be doing it with every single injection.

No, I mean how do you get the gear out of the amp? "Aspirate" out of the amp. Is there a rubber top like on a vial? Can you turn it upside down?

 

[mvmaxx]

You break the amps open with an amp opener or your thumb. (preferably an amp opener). The top of it pops off at the neck and you stick your needle in and draw it out. I use an 18gauge to draw all my gear and then I put on my 25gauge and get the air out and then inject. I never use the same needle to withdraw that I do to inject.

 

[Jello Biafra]

There's no rubber part at the top? Like a vial has.

 

[Eze]

nope

 

[bronco944]

either do teh 500 mg test + 400 mg deca or use test only again. you could try Sustanon (sust) this time at an amp eod. im doin an amp e3d now and lovin it allready, and its only the third week.

 

[BigAndy69]

Wow bro, I suggest you read some more. I couldn't imagine doing a first cycle without knowing the difference between amps and vials. This is not a flame, just some advice.

18% and you want to keep bulking? Are you sure, you may regret it. (unless you are doing this for something other than BBing, like Plifting and Football)

I know many people who absolutely love this cycle (short and sweet)

Test Propionate - Nandrolone Phenylprop - Winstrol

You could do the following cycle:

W1-8

Test Prop: 150mg EOD
Nandro PP: 100mg EOD
Winstrol: 50mg ED

 

[bronco944]

how was that bf analyzed though? if it was from one of those stupid tanita scales or some stupid equation out of a magazine or worse yet teh scale from gnc then its gonna be lower than what it says. i would only trust calipers by someone who knows what they are doing and that water testing. personaly i just go by what i see in the mirror.

BTW bigandy that cycle looks very nice, although id prolly shoot ed, just cause i love doin shots
and remember the only diff between an bulking cycle and a cutting cycle is water retention and diet.