Help with bulking PLease !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[jessy1221086]

Alright this is my first post, I apologize if this question has been answered. I skimmed through the list but could not find what I was lookin for. Basically I am an endo-ectomorph....was skinny fat as a child and now have been training for about 3 years (2.5 years in my home gym with failed nutrition) I finished my first cycle about a month ago and I am plannning on starting second cycle next month or the next. I want to get big, but also would like to have less body fat. I have read the profiles....My main question would be. Should I go with dbol in the begining or straight up winstrol (even tho i am bulking) What i was thinking was something like this.

2 bottles of dbol
2 botles of test cyp
1 bottle of test prop
3 bottles of tren
1 bottle of test E
and 2 bottles of winstrol.

In order to not look "fat" would it be best to just cut out the dbol all together and hit up with 4 bottles of winstrol. Thanks alot for taking the time. I am enjoying this site and the information on the forums.

 

[BAPilgrims]

what are your stats?

 

[El paja]

Take the dbol At the beginning of your cycle bro

 

[jessy1221086]

I weigh 180lb...been eating very unclean since i got off my cycle however i keep calories around 500-600 over...just alot of mcdonalds unfortunatly. I say i have about 17-20% bf however i am not totally sure since every test i take around my area is pure shit saying im at like 11%....which is impossible. I would be alot more defined. But yea 6 feet 180lb about 20% bf i say....and you think the dbol yea....it wont make me get to water weighty ???

 

[jessy1221086]

and thanks for the quick replies...that was awsome lol

 

[El paja]

I weigh 180lb...been eating very unclean since i got off my cycle however i keep calories around 500-600 over...just alot of mcdonalds unfortunatly. I say i have about 17-20% bf however i am not totally sure since every test i take around my area is pure shit saying im at like 11%....which is impossible. I would be alot more defined. But yea 6 feet 180lb about 20% bf i say....and you think the dbol yea....it wont make me get to water weighty ???

Calories 500-600????? That to low. Bro

 

[jessy1221086]

sorry 500-600 over my maintenance which is 2500 last i check...but i gained since than so im prolly at like 400-500 over maintenence...was 2400 when i was starting my bulk

 

[KingBeastMode]

Cut the.mcdonalds out...scratch the dbol.all water weight.. Sell that and pick.up more test run high test.. Add adex or aromison! Esch week add an additional 100cal a day till u reach 1500 over ur maintence

 

[jessy1221086]

Cut the.mcdonalds out...scratch the dbol.all water weight.. Sell that and pick.up more test run high test.. Add adex or aromison! Esch week add an additional 100cal a day till u reach 1500 over ur maintence

1500 a day over really....wow lol.....also what test wud u recomennd.....would test cyp prop abd enanthate be good?? ajd since i scratch dbol should i go ahead and run winstrol all the way through? ?? also i expect adex or aromison r estrogen supressor.....i havent taken a pct for last cycle.....what would you recomennd as pct for a cycle like this one.. .thanks again

 

[notdorianyates]

Sorry if I missed, but what is your age bro?

 

[jessy1221086]

I am 23

 

[KingBeastMode]

At your age i dont.suggest aas.. Ur just post poneing ur natural ability!! B you being.young so.ill tell you run.the winnie towards the end.of.ur.cycle.. Maybe the last 7 weeks.. Run cyp at 500 a week.. Keep.it.light and eat eat eat.. Anti estrogens are needed then.proper pct man.. But u can do.all of.this just eating n not.taking nthn

 

[3J]

my man you need to learn what it means to eat to grow before you hop on steroids

 

[jessy1221086]

what would be the best PCT with a cycle like I mentioned above....and yes I am aware that my levels of T Should be high...but i dont feel that they are that high and my last cycle had AMAZING gains...i took it for about 2 months just to try it...no neg effects so planning on going hard to see massive changes....and arent there drugs to bring back T levels neway...like a drug to counter act everything....and I appreciate you saying I dont need it but I would like to anyway

 

[Wheyson]

The main concern I have is whether it is TOO SOON for u to start your 2nd cycle.
How long was ur 1st cycle and what did u take?

Did u do blood-work?

 

[jessy1221086]

yea i will not be doing this right away i have not purchased nething i still need the funds....i did not unfortunatly do bloodwork as with most drugs....a freind did it we all noticed his gains and it was inspiring...so I decided to try it and was amazed i rolled 1week of dbol then jumped on test prop every other day as well as tren for about 3 months and ran out of money and basically told myself the next time i will do it properly...which is why i got on hear and am starting to ask questions...I was thinking of getting bloodwork...i have never had ne tests done in my life and I am 23....so yes...as I am new to the area I am in i will have to find a physician.

 

[jessy1221086]

basically tho this is a good cycle to get jacked with minimal body fat....am i correct?