Help with my next cycle! Test Prop + Tren A

[Pumpingyork]

It wouldn't hurt to take some nolva as a precaution tho would it?

Would it be the test giving me the gyno or the dbol?? Atleast I no thf test isn't bunk! Lol

 

[Pumpingyork]

Yeh only thing I got on hand is nolva!

 

[Ythrashin]

Its better to run a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) during your cycle but Nolva will work with a dbol/test cycle.

 

[Pumpingyork]

So what would be giving me the gyno??

 

[Ythrashin]

So what would be giving me the gyno??

Testosterone aromitizes into estrogen inside your body. It does this because of the eromitize enzyme. The more Test your body has in it the more your body will aromiteze testosterone into estrogen. Raising your estrogen levels and creating gyno and causing other sides like bloat...

 

[Ythrashin]

By taking a Aromatase inhibitor (AI) it prevents your body from aromitzing the testosterone into estrogen.

Taking Nolva will just block the estrogen from attaching to the estrogen receptor.

 

[Pumpingyork]

So it would be more the test e that's causing it than the dbol?

I'll order an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) as well should be here within 4 - 5 working days and start running that at 12.5 mg for the rest of the cycle. Maze well get some letro while I'm at it. Until then I'll start the nolva at 30 mg Ed. For a week or so??

 

[Ythrashin]

Dbol aromitezes into estrogen also my friend. There are some steroids that do not aromoitize and others that aromitize into other hormones.

10-20mgs should suffice... Maybe 20mgs ed for the first few days then see how your nips feel then drop it to 10mg ed. If your nips still feel itchy/sore after a few days at 20mg up it to 30mgs for awhile depending on how your body feels.

 

[Pumpingyork]

Yeh no worries mate sounds like a plan. I actualy don't think I even have gyno just getting worried and noticing it more. But I'm gonna take the nolva just incase and see what happens. Like there not really sore to touch only wheni it's cold and there isn't any sign of a lump under them either.

I'm just asking about the test or dbol thing cus I wanna make sure the test is legit. Pritty sure it is. Going in for blood tests on Friday so ill find out then if my test lvls aren't really high I no it's fake.

What should they be at after 2000 mg of test e?

 

[Ythrashin]

Well when I was cruising on about 225mg test per week my test level was 1902 ng/dl. When the normal range is 400-1200 ng/dl.

Id guess it would be around 4000 to 4500...

Post your results Im curious

 

[Pumpingyork]

I will for sure mate.

Would a pic of my nip help??

 

[Ythrashin]

Probably wont help if you have no noticeable lump... If your nips feel more sensitive,itchy and/or sore then before starting your cycle its just the beginning of gyno. Its best to "nip it in the bud" now before you form glandular gyno.

 

[Pumpingyork]

Lol nice reference mate. Yeh I will get on the nolva once I get home. Blood tests on Friday looking forward to the results. Is it normal to drop a little weight after being off the dbol for 2 days now? I'm down about 1.5kg. From sunday which is when I stopped the dbol.

 

[Pumpingyork]

so mate im home is it good to take this nolva now, even tho i dont have any aromasin yet?

Am i thinking rite that the Nolva just blokes the estrogen receptors, so it just builds up meaning the gyno can come back stronger and faster when i stop the nolva with out running Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or Letro?

Plus i got a blood test to test my test lvls in 2 days so i dont wont to muck that up either??

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Am i thinking rite that the Nolva just blokes the estrogen receptors, so it just builds up meaning the gyno can come back stronger and faster when i stop the nolva with out running Aromatase inhibitor (AI) or Letro?

correct

 

[Pumpingyork]

So I should wait until I get aromasin and letro before I start taking nolva?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

only take nolva if you get gyno symptoms

 

[Pumpingyork]

I am I think lol or I'm just worring. My nipples are getting more sensitive not itchy or lumps under them just more sensitive. They get a bit harder when it's cold tho. I kinda explained a few posts back.

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

I know man i remember but i think your trippin-I could be wrong though. If I got gyno I would take the nolva, and an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) -when symptoms went away i would drop the nolva and remain on a low dose of the AI.

 

[Pumpingyork]

Lol I'll keep an eye on it I'm ordering Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and letro nowish! If it gets any worse I'm starting the 20mg nolva and 12.5 mg arosamin