Help with New Labs. DHEA and SHBG questions.

[Schweddy]

I recently got a spectracell hormone report and would like some input. Current protocol is 110 MG testosterone cypionate E7D with no AI. Bloods were drawn on day 6. I'm 47 years old. 6" 178#s and exercise over 5 hours per week.

Testosterone total: 376. Range 160-726
Free Testosterone: 9.1. 9 - 30
SHBG: 22. 10 - 57
Androstenedione. <0.5. 0.6 - 3.1
DHEA-S 60.3. 0 - 560
igf-1 139. 74 - 196
Estradiol (E2) 43.1. ND - 56
Estrone (E1) 14. 9 - 36
Progesterone .2. 0.27 - .9

Outside of test and Estradiol I don't know much about the rest of these when TRT is added to the equation.

DHEA-S and Androstenedione seem very low. I don't know anything about these.

Any ideas on dosage? Supplements? Any input is much appreciated.

 

[joecoolredbarron]

Much smarter guys than me on here - but out of sheer curiosity how long have you been on TRT and more importantly how are you feeling?

 

[Schweddy]

Much smarter guys than me on here - but out of sheer curiosity how long have you been on TRT and more importantly how are you feeling?

6 years. Feel pretty good. I ran 120 mE7D for a few years and felt better. Got the labs to start a baseline.

Anyone with experience supplementing with DHEA please chime in.

 

[IMT staff]

DHEA is great but you want to get the cream. Might as well get the DHEA Pregnenolone combo.

Dose seems a bit low, that will solve a lot of the issues I think.

 

[Schweddy]

DHEA is great but you want to get the cream. Might as well get the DHEA Pregnenolone combo.

Dose seems a bit low, that will solve a lot of the issues I think.

How would and increased DHEA level present itself? More energy? Increased mental clarity? Libido?

I'm curious is extraneous testosterone is decreasing natural production of DHEA?

 

[DR Robbins]

Started taking DHEA 20 years ago in my 40's. Accomplished 15 pound weight gain and increased bench press to 360lbs for 300lbs in 1 year. Lowered BF to 9.5% from 12%.
Initial doses were 25-50mg capsules. After age 60 and two heart valve surgeries in 2008, I increased to 100mg capsules. In the hospital for 4 months and rehabbing for 4 months, my max bench press went down to 300lbs. I have never cycled DHEA. I was running 6 minute miles at 190lbs before surgery in 2008, but run only explosive 200-400meter sprints now at 5:30-6:00 pace.; still hike and bike often. Never in 43 years of lifting have I been injured. Recent injuries related to baseball practices with my 10 year old included shoulders and teninosis of elbow. I attribute the months long recuperation to not stopping training post injury. DHEA is a precursor to testosterone. When I was tested for testosterone 2 years ago, I tested low at 290 when the range of 300-750 is recommended. Took the epidermal cream for a few months and levels came up to 600, but testicles shrank up and I was losing virility and strength. I ceased using the topical cream and went back to 100mg off DHEA. Virility, strength and body fat are going back to normal. Word of caution; DHEA increases your sex drive. If you are with a partner whose sex drive is less then yours, this can lead to problems in the relationship. At 63, I have no doubt I could keep a 30 year old nymphomaniac happy. My partner is 57 years of age.

 

[DR Robbins]

No, but testosterone supplementation will decrease your bodies production of testosterone.

 

[Entourage_Doc]

Need to increase your dosage my friend. With a total of 9 you are not utilizing the hormone. You need to get your shbg down and that will help clear up some free plasma t.

Get your e2 down. Some individuals can become symptomatic at minimal levels over normal

Dr B

 

[casanovaaa]

why did you get on TRT to begin with?