Hi, why do people say this?

[blakey]

Here is the problem if you have to be on cycle to be 208 and you can't keep that after 2 cycles you haven't done enough research and you should reassess what you are doing.

I didn't say i couldn't keep the gains i just said i wouldn't be 208 without using gear to get there thats all im just being honest i coudnt eat as much or train as hard if i hadn't used aas

I just feel people are down playing aas yes diet is king if you're not getting enough cals protein ect yes you will not grow but theres a big difference in eating right and training the right way and eating correctly training correctly and using gear saying i haven't done enough research is a bit of a dick thing to say saying that everyone can get to 200 natural is just bullshit genetics play a massive role in this game some guys are lucky and are naturally big others are not and factoring in fast metabolisms 'physically working with your hands carrying steel around all day and all the other variables theres alot of different things at play here for everyone its not so cut and dry

 

[oldmusclemike]

Bump

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

IMOP ^^^^ NOT necessarily so. There are a host of variables in what you said. Hence not a valid BLANKET statement

At 5'11 I stand by my statement. His diet as clearly an issue. Propper Post cycle therapy is also an issue.

 

[blakey]

At 5'11 I stand by my statement. His diet as clearly an issue. Propper Post cycle therapy is also an issue.

Pct is not an issue nor is my diet on or off cycle not sure how you came to that conclusion but maybe its just that you don't know as much as you think you do im nearly 210 pounds im bigger than first grade rugby players 200 pounds is not small
Ive have put on nearly 50 pounds in less than 2 years with numerous injuries i think ive got a good idea of what im doing

 

[juced_porkchop]

Hi, I have been reading about steroids for more than a year now and I still can't find some answers so I'm asking you, hoping to find the answers. Some people say that you shouldn't do any circle if you didn't reach your natural limit yet or if you are not heavy enough or not able to lift heavy enough. I guess they say that because if didn't reach the natural limit without the use of any steroid, you might end up losing the gains did during the circle and I'm only 150 pounds, 14% bf but that is because I had a surgery on my legs last year and I didn't workout for nearly 6 months! So when I started lifting (18) I was 190 pounds and 25+ bf then went to 165 pounds 15 bf in one year and then had the surgery (6 months off) due to the injury did while playing football and then I did a clean cut of 4 months as I ended up being skinny fat during the time off so I'm now 150 pounds 14% bf and about to turn 21. All this should prove that I know how to diet properly and that I should be able to keep the gains did during the circle (test e only, 500 mg/week) , once I come off with proper dieting and proper pct.
Do you think I should go forward or do I need to learn more?

I rec waiting till age 25+ for a variety of reasons

 

[soldier74]

I didn't say i couldn't keep the gains i just said i wouldn't be 208 without using gear to get there thats all im just being honest i coudnt eat as much or train as hard if i hadn't used aas

I just feel people are down playing aas yes diet is king if you're not getting enough cals protein ect yes you will not grow but theres a big difference in eating right and training the right way and eating correctly training correctly and using gear saying i haven't done enough research is a bit of a dick thing to say saying that everyone can get to 200 natural is just bullshit genetics play a massive role in this game some guys are lucky and are naturally big others are not and factoring in fast metabolisms 'physically working with your hands carrying steel around all day and all the other variables theres alot of different things at play here for everyone its not so cut and dry

Ayy, just post a pic up B, itll do the talking for ya bro!