how could somebody stay small on 1-2g of tren?

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So I've been reading about a specific dude (name rhymes with "jizz"; I'm not going to mention his name) who supposedly took 1-2g of tren (ace) a week, and 1-ish grams of test (prop) a week. Along with this was t3 (all cycle) and clen (2 on, 2 off). But the guy was not very big. I find myself wondering, goddam, that's a lot of gear. How did he stay all abercrombie-and-fitch? Shouldn't he have exploded? I understand with t3/clen you're going to stay lean, but tren prevents catabolism, which means he should still have gained muscle mass.

I've been reading about feed efficiency and how tren acts chemically because I'm trying to figure out where I want my next dose. But I'm starting to wonder whether a gram a week of tren is any more effective than half a gram (which I've run) because this guy managed to stay so small.

Anyone have any insight on this?
 
i doubt he would be running that much with the results he had. then again he did die from heart problems so i bet theres a good chance he was on that much or alot of something else.
 
Diet. If you don't eat you don't grow no matter how much gear you run. Tren is not known for huge size gains and t3 and clen are cutting drugs.
 
Ya know ya gotta work out as well as eat!!!! I know a cat that cycles all the time just to be using a needle, works out a couple a times a week and eats like crap .........He has looked the same for years. I just don't get it .......
 
Different goals for different people.

The guy probably didn't use as much as that (who knows) and he was shooting for the fitness model look (definitely got that).
 
I guess then that leads to my other question, how different is 1g from 500mg?

From my experience its a pretty big difference. You will probably run into some side effects at a gram. Maybe not tho, but for me I couldn't sleep for shit, and even with blood pressure supps and meds it still made my blood pressure rise pretty high. Just be prepared if u go.with the high doses of tren.
 
I slept okay at 500. Sweat, but that's fine. By high doses, do you mean > 1g or what? And by prepared, I gather you mean caber? My bp has never been a problem on tren (or test), but it's really low normally.
 
I personally knew the guy in question and can confirm that he was running doses close to mentioned above.. Also loved the party stims
 
he was an idiot and caused alot of greif with his death to the steroid community.. he furthered the stereotype that came with using gear...

its just plain stupid...
 
I slept okay at 500. Sweat, but that's fine. By high doses, do you mean > 1g or what? And by prepared, I gather you mean caber? My bp has never been a problem on tren (or test), but it's really low normally.

I mean with like a gram and above, I'm just saying be prepared for anything..honestly tho I like deca more than tren when I'm bulking.
 
This is why I LOL at his followers that want to make every aspect of his routine, etc. some type of gold standard in bodybuilding. He ran a shit load of tren/test over extended periods and was still smaller than some natural bodybuilders, having quality muscle intertion genetics doesn't change any of that.
 
at first i thought you were talking about another member "Snorkles" who is M.I.A. O brother where art thou?

i hope you are alive and doing well Snorkles

Diet and proper training(power lifting movements, shrugs) is key with all that gear if you wanna become a mass monster

despite of all he did, Zyzz was the man. R.I.P Zyzz
 
This is what happens when people like "rhymes with jizz" abuse steroids:
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a...me-beginner-cycle-please-help-me-experts.html
Every 17/18/19 year old now thinks juicing is fine and will solve all their problems, because hey look at what "rhymes with jizz" did! (P.S. He died). Not to disrespect a dead man (even though I'm not the biggest fan of the dude - putting it nicely), but the steroid community took a huge negative hit from his life and his death.
 
come off it , the bloke is fucking dead. zyzz gives bbing a bad name ok so waht phil heath kai greene ect ect do is fine . r u out of ur fuking mind ! im not a zyzz follower at all i just no how loved he was here in australia ! the dude was famous world wide something the majority if not all of u idiots will never b. sorry to b so rude but its shoclking that this thread is even alive still !
 
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