How fast before my Test Crashes?

[copaseet]

Im currently on a 500mg a week Test E cycle... prior to this my T Levels were around 200....

My doc is willing to put me on TRT if my tests come back low.... I want to get on TRT as soon as possible after my cycle.. how long do I need to wait for my T to crash and is there anything I can do to make the T level even lower?

 

[Megatron28]

What does the 500mg/wk put your TT at? That will help determine how long it will take.

Bit just a rough guess -- 21 days approximately.

If you want to speed that up you could stop taking an AI if you are using one. And stop hCG as well.

 

[copaseet]

What does the 500mg/wk put your TT at? That will help determine how long it will take.

Bit just a rough guess -- 21 days approximately.

If you want to speed that up you could stop taking an AI if you are using one. And stop hCG as well.

- 500mg put me at 4200

What would the AI have to do with it?

 

[Megatron28]

- 500mg put me at 4200

Sounds like your Test is overdosed so it may take longer.

AI's prevent the test from aromatizing. Stopping the AI will allow more of the test to aromatize into estrogen. Therefore your TT will drop faster. You just have to ride out the high estrogen for a short period of time. I am not saying I recommend this, but you asked how to speed things up.

 

[PrinceDianabol]

- 500mg put me at 4200

What would the AI have to do with it?

By blocking aromatase you end with more test. Drop the AI and you will lose more to estradiol.

 

[Megatron28]

You also have to hope that your doc doesn't decide to check LH and FSH.

 

[copaseet]

Sounds like your Test is overdosed so it may take longer.

AI's prevent the test from aromatizing. Stopping the AI will allow more of the test to aromatize into estrogen. Therefore your TT will drop faster. You just have to ride out the high estrogen for a short period of time. I am not saying I recommend this, but you asked how to speed things up.

What should 500mg typically put someone at?

 

[copaseet]

You also have to hope that your doc doesn't decide to check LH and FSH.

Assuming he does... how long then?

 

[Megatron28]

What should 500mg typically put someone at?

Great question. That's why it is answered in the Ology FAQs thread!!!! But here is a link to the specific answer. You should read the FAQs thread.

AJPENDO : Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab

 

[Megatron28]

Assuming he does... how long then?

That is harder to say. Depends if you run PCT or not. Too many variables to know for sure. Could be months. We don't even know how long you have been on for. Primary or Secondary? Etc...

 

[copaseet]

That seems kind of low.. but it makes sense since a lot of people get 200mg TRT a week and that keeps them within the "normal" range.

 

[copaseet]

That is harder to say. Depends if you run PCT or not. Too many variables to know for sure. Could be months. We don't even know how long you have been on for. Primary or Secondary? Etc...

months like 2 or like 9?

 

[PrinceDianabol]

months like 2 or like 9?

Anywhere from 1 - 6 months I would guess is common. Who really knows how quick your brain will turn up LH + FSH again? Everyone's different. All we know for sure is that they will be at 0 until your fully off.

You could try to run a mini-pct (like a week of clomid or something) but then you'd still have to wait 2-3 weeks after that for clomid to clear. I would think that'd be your fastest option... but like Mega said, so many variables here.

 

[copaseet]

Anywhere from 1 - 6 months I would guess is common. Who really knows how quick your brain will turn up LH + FSH again? Everyone's different. All we know for sure is that they will be at 0 until your fully off.

You could try to run a mini-pct (like a week of clomid or something) but then you'd still have to wait 2-3 weeks after that for clomid to clear. I would think that'd be your fastest option... but like Mega said, so many variables here.

and if my LH + FSH is low the doctor will know I was on gear or think i have some other ailment?

 

[PrinceDianabol]

Depends how low they are (and how clued on he is.) I'd think it would be pretty obvious you used something lol.

If its zero its a no brainer. If they up around 2-3 miu/L you'd get away with looking secondary hypo. I really don't know how long it would take to move them up from zero though.

 

[3J]

test e has, rougly,a 7 day half life..

i would personally give it a full month before testing.. you'll be in the gutter