Yeah, I believe that it's in the range of 10-15 lbs, depending on the incline angle, manufacturer, etc. Usually, when I lift on the SM, I don't count the bar, just b/c I feel that it is more of a challenge and better on me mentally. If I'm squatting 260, I'm really squatting 270, which I can acknowledge later. But, while lifting, it seems that I can usually lift more if I don't think about the additional bar weight, if that makes sense...