How to approach insulin safety?

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XELFLEC

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(First things first please post links to articles you've read and liked, researches, bookmarks etc. )

So I've read tons of articles and protocols. I don't want to do this full time just pwo on work out days.

I took a blood sugar test after eating 6 pieces of pizza and I was at 121. So it sparked my interest to figure out a way to approach insulin safely.

I'm not going to blast 10iu. So don't say grow a pair and blast.

I found some spreadsheets at Free Blood Sugar Tracking Spreadsheets | Diabetic Connect

I was thinking maybe do a few weeks of tracking my blood sugar levels before and after meals, then add a few ius through put the week and start to taper up and track the results. Just to learn how I react to insulin.

Or am I over thinking this?
 
For example I ate 6 pieces of pizza Saturday at lunch time. Bout 45min later I checked my blood glucose and it was 121.
I could shoot 4iu to start and check to see what it did to me then make adjustments from there.

But I don't eat pizza often so I would need to do this for typical meals I eat to really learn.

http://diabetesinstitute.pitt.edu/files/RegHumulinISS.pdf
 
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man that shit scares the crap out of me...

obviously your doin you're research but have you really considered this and what's your goals and cycle history.. just curious not trying to challenge you
 
Megatron28 said:
I'm ignorant on this. What does taking exogenous insulin before you eat do?
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it's after you eat.. and insulin is the most anabolic hormone there is... with exogenous slin doses you shuttle all the nutrients you just consumed straight into the RBC to be sent to your muscles
 
Chicago712 said:
it's after you eat.. and insulin is the most anabolic hormone there is... with exogenous slin doses you shuttle all the nutrients you just consumed straight into the RBC to be sent to your muscles
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You can also make yourself diabetic by abusing exogenous insulin.
 
I've posted several comments on threads voicing a strong dislike for insulin. I do this for a reason...shit will kill ya if you don't know what your doing or get careless. I live with a type 1 diabetic so I deal with insulin every day. It's not to be played with. If your adamant about using yourself as a research rat, i would keep studying and researching. You would want to test your sugar before you eat, log what you eat, then re-test approx 1 hour afterwards. The thing is, if your not diabetic, your sugars SHOULD always be between 80-140 (give or take) if your pancreas is working the way it should. Giving your body additional insulin will make you crash into hypo very easily. I would never condone or suggest someone do this, but my big piece of advice would be experiment in low doses, and maybe have a "buddy" around to assist you. Halwit will hopefully give his .02 as well....good luck!
 
Before I answer the questions. I just want to state.
I won't be doing it a lot or taking a lot. Just enough to feed my muscles post work out and from what I've read you could expect and easy 10lbs in know time.
I've also read the dangers come from using multiple times a day and keeping your pancreas shut down.
But im aware of the dangers tho and it's alittle worry some.
But I feel if you monitored your blood glucose closely you could easily do insulin safely.
I'm only in the research phase and want to learn, which could take quite awhile.
 
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MeatHead96 said:
Whats your cycle history, stats, goals, etc?
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Copied from my cycle thread. Only goal I have is to get bigger really.

32yo Male
12% bf 6ft tall
Lifting almost exactly 2 years
Came up from a skinny 170 to my current 205lbs
Diet 80% clean and sitting at about 3500calories 6-7 meals a day but will up it when it's time to bulk.
Cycle history
1st cycle test e @ 500only 14weeks (worst cycle ever)
2nd cycle test e @500 10weeks tren e @ 250 8 weeks ( great cycle cut short)

3rd cycle
Prop 100
Npp 100
Dbol 20mg or super DMZ 20mg
Cabaser 1mg
Adex/arom/letro to choose from
Cialis
Nolva, clomid,( and hopefully my testrx360 if it ever shows up....)
And trying to find hmg but may settle for the typical 250iu x2 a week of hcg.


Just finished pct but I've been buying as I could and stocking up.
Im not excited to pin Ed so eod is the preferred option.
I'm just u certain the dose I want to run of test and npp for this winter bulk cycle while looking to break into 220s and maintain over 210.
 
Frank White said:
I've posted several comments on threads voicing a strong dislike for insulin. I do this for a reason...shit will kill ya if you don't know what your doing or get careless. I live with a type 1 diabetic so I deal with insulin every day. It's not to be played with. If your adamant about using yourself as a research rat, i would keep studying and researching. You would want to test your sugar before you eat, log what you eat, then re-test approx 1 hour afterwards. The thing is, if your not diabetic, your sugars SHOULD always be between 80-140 (give or take) if your pancreas is working the way it should. Giving your body additional insulin will make you crash into hypo very easily. I would never condone or suggest someone do this, but my big piece of advice would be experiment in low doses, and maybe have a "buddy" around to assist you. Halwit will hopefully give his .02 as well....good luck!
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Ty for that response was hoping some diabetics Would have some input.
I wouldn't take any crazy amounts for sure(prolly never the 10iu some protocol say). Just enough to be useful.
I'm on hgh 2.5 iu a day at the moment working my way up to 4iu slowly.
I've read a lot of times that hgh and slin can do big things. So maybe if I'm mentally prepared/confident I can do slin safely in a few months I may give it a whirl.
 
The combo if GH, AAS and Slin have a synergy when ran together. Depending on your dose of GH it will down regulate your natural insulin production but increase sensitivity to exogenous insulin. This is where the combo will flourish. It sure can do big things including making you fat as well as kill you

I have ran slin (humilin R) many times and always PWO. I always start at 4iu and increase till I hit 10iu. The big jump for me in terms of effects is from 6 to 8iu then 8 to 10. This is where it really starts to fill me out. Although slin is dangerous it can be ran very safely in order to minimize the negative side effects. The main thing is to read read read and once you have got a handle on it read some more. The standard is 10 grams carbs per IU for your post injection shake as well as the meals within the slin window but my last run with GH and slin I went up to 120g carbs on 10iu without gaining any fat.

I in no way condone the use of it to anyone who has not done their research, nor anyone who is not on point with their diet at all times, I also suggest anyone venturing into the territory to purchase a meter to monitor your BG levels. The safer you are the better
 
I've always read up on slin use but have never grown a pair and pulled the trigger...it is scary...and I would prefer to run it on a cycle where I'm using GH & AAS but that has yet to come to fruition mainly due to the cost of GH
 
Kazmir is spot on. There is good reason why many of us don't want to throw advise out there on slin. It is dangerous and its almost like one of those things that if you have done enough research on it to know what your doing you shouldn't have any more questions on it. This is something you want to research your ass of on before even thinking about touching it.
 
XELFLEC said:
For example I ate 6 pieces of pizza Saturday at lunch time. Bout 45min later I checked my blood glucose and it was 121.
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I can't possibly add more than what's been said, but as a type II diabetic, I have to say I'm DAMN jealous of your insulin sensitivity! I've said it before and I'll say it again, hypoglycemia is the scariest thing you can have happen to you. I've hit blood vessels/nerves/tren cough/abscess scares/bent pins in me/all sorts of crazy stuff that comes with this game, and NONE of it compares to the scary unknown of what's going to happen once you go hypo. It's basically where you become confused, scared, shaky, and feel nauseous. You don't know it's on you until it's too late, at which point you're scrambling for simple sugars to bring your glucose back up. Heaven help you if you're asleep when it happens; as that's when it becomes dangerous, even for folks that take it on a daily basis (insulin using diabetics). My brother in law is on insulin for his diabetes and went into a diabetic coma because he didn't eat enough before bedtime and took his shot. He's lucky to be alive with us today.

I'm not saying it cannot be done safely as Kazmir stated, but I would definitely tread these waters with extreme caution.

My .02c :)
 
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