How to clean bulk, with the help of AAS?

[DieselMan]

Good evening. I'm 27, 6'3, and weigh 205. I've done two cycles of Test E, both 500mg a week, each was pretty short (one was 10 weeks because i only had two vials, one was 8 weeks because I made a huge noob mistake... ask me if interested). I would like to do either Test E and Deca, OR Test E and Dbol (leaning towards the dbol due to the fact I won't have to pin myself for 16ish weeks of two substances). Being 6'3 and 205 lbs, I'm tall and not too filled out. I would like to put on some healthy mass, but not gain much body fat. I know there is bound to generally be some fat gain along with bulking, but I figure the extra edge from the AAS will minimize it more than doing it natural. Hell, I wouldn't even mind gaining just 10-15 pounds but SHEDDING some body fat.

My question is, what caloric intake would one take to stay at the same body fat or possibly lose a small amount, while still gaining good muscle? Due to training hard, eating right, Test E and Dbol of course, I think it's possible. Would I want to eat my maintenance calories, maybe a small surplus even, or would I would to dip slightly below maintenance? Keep in mind I'll be doing cardio 3-ish times a week due to my job.

Thanks!

 

[stang50]

I would personally do a small surplus above maint cals.

 

[DieselMan]

You think that will help me hover around what my bf% currently is?

Basically what my concern is, is that I'll get off cycle, and if I cut, I'll lose too much muscle. As I read someone else put it, cutting off cycle is "mildly retarded". Makes sense to me. I guess I just don't think i should go hardcore either route (due to the fact that I have to maintain a certain body fat % for my job), so I'll do a little bit of both with the help of some AAS friends.

 

[stang50]

IMO yes, since youre gonna do moderate cardio. If you were at main or below, you may drop weight.

 

[digitalgorilla13]

If you wanna gain lean mass and still cut body fat - you can take something like ANAVAR with your test - or eat heavier protiens and barely any carbs, fats, and low cal. Stick to red meat, chicken, and - moose/elk burgers are the best also....verrrry high protein!

 

[digitalgorilla13]

I would do faster cardio everyday - then a protien shake or a meal then weight training. If you cant hit the gym twice in a day then do your fasted cardio for 15min - take a break for a shake, wait 15 min then hit the weights for 45.

I lost 110 lbs, and at the same time increased my stregnth by at least 60% and keppt it. So i know what im talkin about