how to end sust/deca cycle?

[joei rock]

have a quick question here..
planned out my 3rd cycle .. not starting for quite some time , but i like to order everything wayyyy in advance. so far my xmas list consist of

4 x 10ml Sustanon (sust) 350
4 x 10ml deca 300
lots of aromasin, dbol, nolva, etc...

question is .. with the deca and Sustanon (sust) you are supposed to start PCT 21 days after last pin. i was going to either :
a) stop both at the same time and start PCT 21 days after last pin
b) stop deca a week or two earlier and run pct 21 days after last Sustanon (sust) pin
c) stop both at the same time, BUT also purchase a vial of test E or prop to put into the end so that PCT would start 14 days or 3 respectivley from last pin

which one of these options would you do? have you done?
and whats the best way to go about C?

 

[numba1scrapper]

What doses are you running, 40ml of Deca 300 seems like alot for the 40ml of Test unless your running MORE Deca then test which I wouldnt advise...


Pct is usually started 14 days after last injection not 21 days.

Cut the Deca two weeks before your last Sustanon (sust) pin.

Two weeks after last Sustanon (sust) pin start pct

 

[joei rock]

im runing

700mg Sustanon (sust) per week
600mg deca per week

the Sustanon (sust) has the deca ester in it, this is why pct i believe would start 21 days after last pin ...

sust break down is as follows:

testosterone propionate--------42mg
testosterone phenylpropionate--84mg
testosterone isocaproate--------84mg
testosterone decanoate---------140mg

 

[numba1scrapper]

you have enough to run both for 20 weeks, thats how long your cycle will be?

I have never used test Deconate but I just read real quick and it says the half life is about 2 weeks.. Im not positive, but I think you'd be fine starting two weeks after last Sustanon (sust) pin.

Def cut the deca two weeks before your last Sustanon (sust) pin

 

[joei rock]

not planning on running it for 20 weeks .. but for sure atleast 15 so i get a lil extra just incase.. i usually tend to pin just a hair over 1cc when i load my syringes so by the time i get to that 10th pin there is never a full cc left ..

 

[joei rock]

anyone else wana share their experiences here ???

 

[joei rock]

ok .. well im impatiant .. still awaiting some responses from some people here .. but i added a vial of test E 250 to the order just in case.. im sure it wont go to waste

 

[Leftrightleft]

have a quick question here..
planned out my 3rd cycle .. not starting for quite some time , but i like to order everything wayyyy in advance. so far my xmas list consist of

4 x 10ml Sustanon (sust) 350
4 x 10ml deca 300
lots of aromasin, dbol, nolva, etc...

question is .. with the deca and Sustanon (sust) you are supposed to start PCT 21 days after last pin. i was going to either :
a) stop both at the same time and start PCT 21 days after last pin
b) stop deca a week or two earlier and run pct 21 days after last Sustanon (sust) pin
c) stop both at the same time, BUT also purchase a vial of test E or prop to put into the end so that PCT would start 14 days or 3 respectivley from last pin

which one of these options would you do? have you done?
and whats the best way to go about C?

I apologize if I confuse the situation, but I have heard Sustanon (sust) is not a good mix with Deca. Short acting ether with a long acting ether like Deca contradicts.

It's totally up to you, but I would go with Test-E, cyp, or something else. I'm talking about maximizing your gains, not so much just health risks.

Lastly, with Sustanon (sust), I had a vial and gave it back for Test-E when I found out you have to inject 150-200cc every other day because it is so fast acting.

Again, just my opinion.

 

[joei rock]

ok.. i know there are people here who have ran this cycle ...

 

[Bullseye Forever]

im runing

700mg Sustanon (sust) per week
600mg deca per week

the Sustanon (sust) has the deca ester in it, this is why post cycle therapy (pct) i believe would start 21 days after last pin ...

sust break down is as follows:

testosterone propionate--------42mg
testosterone phenylpropionate--84mg
testosterone isocaproate--------84mg
testosterone decanoate---------140mg

imo if you've never run deca before,i would start at 400mg of deca/week,just my.02...cause you may have major sides with that much

i owuld run the test at 600mg and deca at 400mg...imo

 

[joei rock]

i might do that ... havent honestly decided .. it is my first time using deca .. and went with that dose cuz of the whole 2mg per lbs thing...

my main concern is coming off and timing PCT correctly.. sides luckily havent been an issue for me at all .. and my cycle til now have included tren.. so im hoping the deca wont be a prob ...

 

[DD55]

Bullseye is right. Don't do 600 mg of deca. The sides start popping up at dosages that high.

 

[joei rock]

ok .. so perhaps i lower it to 450 by taking 3/4cc 2x week .. dosage is something i will most likely decide on at the start of the cycle .. which wont be for some time cuz i just finished my test/tren cycle recently... still gota finish pct, get blood work, etc ...

but as stated above i already ordered and as of yesterday paid for the next planned run... just wana figure out if stopping Sustanon (sust) and deca at the same time would be ok because they both have deconate ester.. or if i should stop them together and then continue with test E for a few weeks... or if i need to start test E pins a week or 2 before i drop the Sustanon (sust) .. or how that would work..

or maybe i need to buy something else... ?? i like being planned and organized wayyy in advance ..

 

[cyclegtr]

I just completed 10 weeks of 500 mg/wk Sustanon (sust) and 200mg/week deca and finished the deca 2 wks before the last pin of Sustanon (sust). Awesome results. Next time I'll up the dosages slightly and a bit longer, but not much more. I took the cycle with 12.5 mg of aromasin ed and had virtually no sides. My 2 cents.

 

[joei rock]

I just completed 10 weeks of 500 mg/wk Sustanon (sust) and 200mg/week deca and finished the deca 2 wks before the last pin of Sustanon (sust). Awesome results. Next time I'll up the dosages slightly and a bit longer, but not much more. I took the cycle with 12.5 mg of aromasin ed and had virtually no sides. My 2 cents.

sounds good .. ill probably just cut deca a couple weeks b4 the Sustanon (sust) like most people do. defnitly going to be runing 700mg sust.. still debating deca dose..

and just to make sure .. you should start post cycle therapy (pct) 21 days after last pin when using Sustanon (sust) correct.??

 

[Sadista]

yes...pct starts 3 weeks after last Sustanon (sust) shot