Hypothetical Western Union Scenerio...

[eastarr69]

OK...

Lets say hypothetically, one was to have sent some money to someone, and it was not picked up, you phone western union and they tell you that it will not be delivered to the reciepient due to security reasons...hmmm..

sooo..you resend funds at a later date to another reciepient, and not picked up...you call wu and they tell you a similar gig, and they offer you the refund, as last time, but this time, they are specific as to what location you can pick up your funds...should this be like a no-no...

like not even think about getting the funds...especially since you have to use id when they refund???????

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[eastarr69]

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[StoneColdNTO]

I dunno, it sounds suspicious............but then again ??

 

[eastarr69]

it is just odd...last time the funds could not be recieved, it was due to wu security reasons...not an issue getting funds...

this time, different reciever, but same destination..not picked up in 3 weeks, wu says same thing, now they wanted to know where besides what city i was going to pick up in?

 

[eastarr69]

and on top of it, it toook like 25 minutes for thewm to process the refund..thats plenty of time for the po-po to sho...if ya kno..bro...

damn a poet also.....

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[That-Guy]

dont you guys have to give id.......... when you make the wu transaction...

we do here in australia.... so either way if they know whats going on your fucked here in aus

 

[eastarr69]

nope..only if it is over 999.00 you need id...other then that...nope...

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[rpwhit777]

That definitely sounds a little weird I would be cautious!!!! On the other hand I know from experience that if the po po wants you they get you. It's not like your gonna go pick up money and then bust you... How can they prove you sent money for anything illegal ( just deny it). The only caution I would take is before I went to get the funds I would clean my house good if you know what I mean. You should be OK though!!!! Thats just my opinion though use your gut bro.. Good luck

 

[Ozzy27]

Just go get the cash ! At worst you tried to buy steroids BUT you didn't. So what can they really do ? Get out of your head man

 

[eastarr69]

i am concerned that the source i being watched...trying gives them the opportunity to search everything...you know what i mean...

and since wu stopped the fund transfer for the second time, for the same reasons..you have to think.......

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[rpwhit777]

If you know for surethe source is being watched, then we start getting into a whole different ball game bro... I dont know what to tell you, aside from clean your house good. Let a friend hold your dirty laundry. On the payee, payer info Did the source use his name??, Did you use your name??.. If so , and they were there waiting youd would put yourself in haarms way.... If it was two bogus names I just hope you have a good fake i.d.. Or you could kiss the money bye, bye. Las tbut not least if you used your real name and he used a fake one, I would go get my money .. Unless your source gets busted and then rats, and then tries to sett you up. ( Dont talk to new guys at the gym!!!) THey have nothing on you bro...DONT TALK TO THEM AT ALL.. You Do nOt Need To eXPLAIN YORSELF TO ANYONE.

 

[xtinct]

Just go get the cash ! At worst you tried to buy steroids BUT you didn't.

Legally speaking, the mere attempt to buy a controlled substance can get you into almost as much trouble as actually buying it. Now, in reality I doubt anyone is going to bother trying to make out a case of attempt for a small order, but keep in mind that it is possible.

 

[Canuck4]

It sounds weird bro.

 

[eastarr69]

I am just concerned that since the source had to change names to get wu, and wu security closed down the first bogus one, that the source is being watched...that makes we think...and the whole scenerio sounds wierd to me...

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[ntpadude]

You guys are worried about nothing... if it was a fed, then your guy would have got the money - definately and they would deliver the goods - so they can catch you when you pick it up at the mail box!

You should do western union in person, many grocery stores offer western union and moneygram... in person is the only way to give a "test answer" which is how you send money to someone who has lost their wallet and has no ID... you cannot put the test question via ordering a western union on internet... go to check cashing place or grocery store that offers WU or Moneygram.

 

[Rokomuscle1]

If the feds or anyone asks you...tell them you were wiring money to buy something off of ebay.. or some other crap.. you don't have to prove that... I would personally tell them nothing..just give me my money back...or arrest me..

 

[eastarr69]

ok...my experience last night trying to pick up...since the wu desk is open until 10 pm..i figured i would go about 930...so..i went and told them i wanted to pick up a non picked up wire transfer...

the chick was on the phone with them for like 15 minutes and then asked for my id...i give her id, and then she is on the phone for another 10 minutes...so....i ask her for the id back, and she mentions the address on the id does not match the address on the wire...as far as sender goes...she aked me for my current address...

which sounded wierd to me, because last time i had to pick funds back up, they did not care about my address..just to know i was me...so...i told her i would go get another piece of mail etc...

...and left and did not go back...

not to mention i had the rug rats with me...my weekend...i think i may try again on like wednesday, but kind of freked me...especially since i am only ordering from a beanie baby source (ahem...) to ad to my collection...

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[Tweekt-out]

I've used WU quite often, It is definitely not standard Op. Procedure
to ask which location u r picking up at. I would suggest you find an office/partystore or whatever in a place you feel comfortable at, and use that place exclusively. The employee(s) will know you, and you won't have to go through unneccessary BS. Keep in mind, that some of the people working the counter at major drpartment stores, etc. don't really have that much experience dealing with WU, especially in non-touristy suburban areas. A WU is confusing to them, and rather than make a mistake they give you the third degree. Some of the assholes I've dealt with in these places son't seem to grasp the concept of wiring money. On another note, please keep in mind that if you are sending money over statelines, the fed's (DEA) are automatically involved. I'm sure you're a law-abiding citizen, but be aware that the Fedz have a reputation for meticulous & extensive investigations into alleged illegal activity sometimes lasting months, or even years. This is especially true if a person/"enterprise" is suspected of 'distributing'. One more thing, a person using WU will be 'flagged' if their transfers are routinely in amounts "Just Under" the imposed limit. In other words if they are demanding ID for amounts in excess of $1000, and a person goes in there transfering $999.99 all the time that person should expect a hassle. Which is probably all that they are trying to do anyway, is hassle ya.

 

[|-[///ROIDR///]----------]

Your PARANOID,,if they didn't pick up the money you sent what the hell is the crime???

I think if they had anything all they could do is question you which is probably a invasion of privacy,

 

[eastarr69]

Well...in conclusion, i went to p/u and they wanted all types of info...sooo.....i clled WU and they after talking with me, are sending a check refund instead of me just gpoing to get the cash..i told them i was in and out of town for work, and felt better if they send me a check..they said ok on the customer service line, and cut me a check and mailed...sooo...apparently i got paranoid...oh well...can never be to safe i guess...and the old addage "better safe then sorry" goes a long way...

thanks bros...

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