I decided to start the cycle

Thank you, but we all use the machine. I'm not sure what is so outlandish about being 5'10" at 225 and 5%. The machine can't be off like you say as everyone even pros use it. Guys like Cutler and Dexter Jackson have low bf% at my height or lower and are much heavier, of course they use.

OP. I'm 5ft 10", 205lbs and about 8% bf in my avatar - how do you think you compare?
 
This has got to be a troll. BF% at 4.8-5.6. Maybe you did it wrong hence what was asked how did you come up with that #.
Also bad cycle and also you DO NOT keep your AI on hand you use it from the beginning to the end :dunno:

I disagree with this. AI from the beginning is just a cookie cutter approach to not being educated and cycling correctly. Estrogen probably has the most profound effect on "weight gain" take note that I said weight and not just lean mass.

If someone were to get blood work they would know whether or not to add in an AI. It should be on hand; I agree with that. But if maximum weight gain is the goal then an individual would greatly benefit from elevated levels of estrogen. Of course with in reason.
 
I disagree with this. AI from the beginning is just a cookie cutter approach to not being educated and cycling correctly. Estrogen probably has the most profound effect on "weight gain" take note that I said weight and not just lean mass.

If someone were to get blood work they would know whether or not to add in an AI. It should be on hand; I agree with that. But if maximum weight gain is the goal then an individual would greatly benefit from elevated levels of estrogen. Of course with in reason.

I do agree and I know better because you and I know we need blood work. And I guess I did use the cookie cutter approach but I am speaking to the average Joe and that's where most of these guys are. We've told them about BW but if they don't get it I would suggest to use an AI every go because we KNOW that up the test and up the Estrogen and there go the sides. These guys go by feel (MOST) and they think the should wait until they see the Gyno or feel like shit etc..

In regard to my statement it is generally more than not that they will need an AI. Better safe then sorry
 
Why this is important to the NOVICE

Low Estrogen Side Effects:

- Osteoporosis (weakened bones) ; (long-term low levels)
- Poor sex drive
- Fatigue
- Lethargy
- Skin quality diminishes
- Depression
- Poor sense of wellbeing & poor quality of life

High Estrogen Side Effects:

- Gynecomastia- Anxiety & panic attacks
- Depression
- Erectile dysfunction
- Water retention
- High blood pressure
- Loss of balance/instability/dizziness
- Respiratory related concerns
- Irritability
- Low libido
- Insomnia
- Prostate related issues
- Crying like a little girl and being emotional all the time
AS you said, but who wants water weight for our general purpose.
That was my approach and mostly the dangers
 
I do agree and I know better because you and I know we need blood work. And I guess I did use the cookie cutter approach but I am speaking to the average Joe and that's where most of these guys are. We've told them about BW but if they don't get it I would suggest to use an AI every go because we KNOW that up the test and up the Estrogen and there go the sides. These guys go by feel (MOST) and they think the should wait until they see the Gyno or feel like shit etc..

In regard to my statement it is generally more than not that they will need an AI. Better safe then sorry

I respect that, sometimes a blanket statement is needed.
That's the sad reality about so many users; All of them want to jab a needle in their ass and not understand even a fraction of what is actually happening. I personally think they're just as ignorant as the people who claim "oh I'd look like that if I did steroids"
 
The pros don't use BIA machines.
And I CLEARLY said they can be very INACCURATE, I didn't say they "cant be off".

LOL I just noticed his previous thread - Your not 5'10 225 at 5%bf, its physically impossible to have those stats as a natural.

I agree with the other guys here - you certainly wouldn't be this nervous about posting a pic if you really had those stats.

Troll :)


Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
 
OP. I'm 5ft 10", 205lbs and about 8% bf in my avatar - how do you think you compare?

That can't even really be you. It looks like a pro or some shit. That looks like 2% body fat on the guy in the avatar. That is my goal physique one day so I am sure that you guys are just fucking with my mind but you had me for a second there lol. What kind of compounds make someone come even close to that kind of conditioning and bodyfat?
 
That can't even really be you. It looks like a pro or some shit. That looks like 2% body fat on the guy in the avatar. That is my goal physique one day so I am sure that you guys are just fucking with my mind but you had me for a second there lol. What kind of compounds make someone come even close to that kind of conditioning and bodyfat?

2% bodyfat is bordering on impossible buddy. At that bodyfat percentage you would be minutes from the grave. I'm pretty sure that guy is who he says he is, but you seem pretty unaware of what is and is not reality so I'll just go back minding my own business.
 
That can't even really be you. It looks like a pro or some shit. That looks like 2% body fat on the guy in the avatar. That is my goal physique one day so I am sure that you guys are just fucking with my mind but you had me for a second there lol. What kind of compounds make someone come even close to that kind of conditioning and bodyfat?

You really do not have a clue do you!?

Yes that is me (age 44) .... yes 8% is accurate... and if I was 2%, I think you'd find I'd be dead!

Don't get involved in a debate that you clearly know nothing about!

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Well boys wasn't this fun? But getting off track. Op go away you have no clue as to BF%. One more time show us a pic of 5.6% bf on you.
Or you are a troll. That's bottom line
 
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