Im taking 200mg Tren and 300mg Test E a week and seeing no results???

[romancolin]

Hey guys im new into this forum stuff so bare with me please, i only made an account so i can get help or advice on my cycle, im a 20 yrl ectomorph whos been lifting for about 2 yrs on and off ( prob 2 off months in a total) and ive actually seeing results but not the ones i taught i would, about half a year i did an oxandrolone only cycle ( 10 mgs 5 times a week) and pushed it to 30 mg a day about 2 weeks before i finished it and saw no body results whatsoever only strenght, so exactly 1 month ago i started a Tren cycle at 200mg a week and 2 weeks in i added Test E at 300mg a week , i have 100mg of Tren left and half the bottle of Test, and i have not seen the results i had hoped for,i do have a diet and i go to the gym 5-6 times a week ( i did go 4 times in 2 weeks only due to work) im really dissapointed because i have not seeing the changes i taught i would,any suggestions? should i increase the Tren dose in my next cycle? my current training split is the following:
Mon: Legs
tues:Chest
wed: Arms
thurs:back and shoulders
fri:arms
sad:legs
Here are some progress photos (SMALLER PHOTOS WITH BLACK BACKGROUND ARE THE AFTER)
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[Old Duffer]

Oh dude. Where to start. I'll skip the part where you're too young to be doing AAS at all, but since you already started damaging your undeveloped system, let's go from there.

You need to pct. stop all steroids cuz you are doing it way wrong and attempt to restart your natural system. Please. Since you never mentioned any AI or HCG there's a good chance your estrogen and prolactin are thru the roof messed up. Read. Nolva. Clomid. Please.

Then let's talk about what went wrong.
I already mentioned AI.
Never run ANYTHING without test. Research why
Diet. Food. Macros. Research it
Expectations: it takes years to build quality muscle, even when you do it right.

I don't want to chase you off. Stay, read, learn, plan, prep. It's a long term commitment. But I also want you to understand that jumping into this half assed can REALLY damage your body. Really.

 

[T-RexAlpha]

Wow. Bro.. please here me out. Your still growing. But since you have pinned, your on a down word spirial. Did you take a AI? Example: Adex or Aromasin? How old are you? How long have you been on the cycle, 1 month? Experiencing any sides? Tren is strong, which ester? Acitate or E? Man you got some serious compounds for your first real run. You dont know how your body is going to react. You need a AI quick.

 

[romancolin]

Im 20 as i stated above, ive been exactly 4 weeks on Tren A and 2 weeks on Test E, no sides yet

 

[oldmusclemike]

What a cluster fuck :

Too ;late at night for this one, tomorrow another day

 

[T-RexAlpha]

Oh dude. Where to start. I'll skip the part where you're too young to be doing AAS at all, but since you already started damaging your undeveloped system, let's go from there.

You need to pct. stop all steroids cuz you are doing it way wrong and attempt to restart your natural system. Please. Since you never mentioned any AI or HCG there's a good chance your estrogen and prolactin are thru the roof messed up. Read. Nolva. Clomid. Please.

Then let's talk about what went wrong.
I already mentioned AI.
Never run ANYTHING without test. Research why
Diet. Food. Macros. Research it
Expectations: it takes years to build quality muscle, even when you do it right.

I don't want to chase you off. Stay, read, learn, plan, prep. It's a long term commitment. But I also want you to understand that jumping into this half assed can REALLY damage your body. Really.

#RealTalk. Great post! Listen to this man!

 

[oldmusclemike]

First welcome

Listen romancolin i was very harsh with my post #4 from OMM. I'm hoping you will listen to what my friends said and that you come back. My apology for my inconsideration , but we all have bad days and i know better. ...nough of that.

We can help you so please jump back in so we might discuss your unfortunate misunderstanding of the use of steroids. No need for embarrassment many on here made mistakes way back in the beginning and we don't know who you are.

Start reading the sticky posts found back where you came in to start your thread. They are labeled "sticky" and their purpose is to educate.

As was said you need to stop and begin your PCT. If you do not know how come back and ask so we can point you in the right direction.

Good Luck and please come on back.

 

[scorob777]

I think you could benefit from a roadmap to wind this thing down. First priority is to get some nolvadex and some clomid, next would be to get some AI either aromasin or arimidex. Depending on timing to get those things I'd suggest:

Stop the tren immediately, throw away whatever you have left - do this no matter what.

If you can get an AI now while waiting on clomid & nolva, then I'd suggest continuing on with the test for a few weeks while you source nolva/clomid. This could look like (let's assume right now is week #0)

Week 1, 2, 3, etc. - 300 test and 0.25 adex E3.5D or 6.5mg aromasin EOD (while you are waiting on nolva and clomid, as soon as you get them stop Test E)
Week next #1 - only take the adex or aromasin
Week next #2 - only take the adex or aromasin
Week next #3 - start PCT 100 clomid/day 40 nolva/day
Week next #4 - clomid 100/day nolva 40/day
Weeks next #5, 6 - clomid 50/day nolva 40/day
Weeks next #7, 8 - clomid 50/day nolva 20/day

If you can't get the AI, then I'd stop the test right now too. You must get the nolva and clomid, failure isn't an option here. As above, wait two weeks after your last test E shot, then do

Weeks #1 and #2 - take nothing
Week #3 and #4 - start PCT 100 clomid/day 40 nolva/day
Weeks #5, 6 - clomid 50/day nolva 40/day
Weeks next #7, 8 - clomid 50/day nolva 20/day

Don't mess around with any of this stuff again until you are at least 25. For me personally I was an ecto and didn't gain anything much until ages 21 and 22, then I put on about 10% more body weight. All you can do now at 20 years old is work out hard and eat as much as you can put down, keep at it and your body will start to gain naturally when you are a bit older.

 

[casanovaaa]

you better get an Ai immediately. are you taking anything to avoid shutting down? you also need to do blood works to see your levels.
How are the sides going?

 

[T-RexAlpha]

Not to be a dick, but this post actually got me sad, and thinking about my son. Please bro, read all the stickys, educate yourself bro. We all had to start there, it would be wise to do the same if you plan on continuing to do AAS without getting fucked up.