Injecting When You're Already Sore

[babyface58]

My protocol includes 60mg Test Cyp every 4 days. So far I've just been rotating left and right glute every 4 days. So basically every 8 days I'm injecting in the same spot.

Both injection sites are now starting to get sore after weeks of rotating the same 2 spots.

I ordered different sized needles so I can inject in my legs as well but they haven't arrived yet...

So for now I'm going to be stuck injecting into a sore muscle today... Any tips or experience with this?

 

[halfwit]

What gauge needle are you using? You want to rotate at LEAST to the point where you give a site two to three weeks off. Otherwise, you can develop scar tissue, which is no bueno.

Quads can easily take 23 gauge or smaller btw.

 

[3J]

i dont get why people on trt are not using insulin backloading..

 

[halfwit]

i dont get why people on trt are not using insulin backloading..

I personally like the deeper penetration from a 1" needle. Hits that muscle belly nicely.

That sounded kinda gay, didn't it..?

Uhhhh, no homo?

 

[tbonexl]

Rotate to a new site just don't bury the needle...

 

[Billegitimate]

i dont get why people on trt are not using insulin backloading..

Why even backload? Heat the oil a bit and draw it. Doesn't work so well with 1/2" needles, but 5/16 31 gauge works just fine!

One key is to not just yank the plunger back to where the final dose is. Just pull it back until it starts to flow and then keep the bubble about the same size. Otherwise air leaks in around the plunger, and the draw won't work. I think that's why people say you can't draw with an insulin syringe.

I've filled a .5cc syringe before, just takes a little patience.

If you're impatient, get some tuberculin syringes.

 

[3J]

i rotate delts and quads and backload... use a 21 to pull and at 29 to inject.. never had a problem

 

[babyface58]

What gauge needle are you using? You want to rotate at LEAST to the point where you give a site two to three weeks off. Otherwise, you can develop scar tissue, which is no bueno.

Quads can easily take 23 gauge or smaller btw.

25 gauge for the glutes and I ordered 27 and 30 gauge 1/2 inch needles to try out on the quads

 

[babyface58]

i dont get why people on trt are not using insulin backloading..

What is insulin backloading?

 

[3J]

What is insulin backloading?

use a 21g needle to pull your gear..

take a 29g 5/8 need and remove the plunger.. load the liquid into the syringe.. put the plunger back in just a little.. turn it over let the oil run down.. push the plunger to let out the air..

inject im as usually (but not in glutes.. quads and delts are best

 

[halfwit]

25 gauge for the glutes and I ordered 27 and 30 gauge 1/2 inch needles to try out on the quads

Nothing against what 3J is recommending, but a 25g 1 is what I use for quads/delts/pecs/ventroglutes. If you have 1.5" pins, just don't go in all the way, until you get your new pins.

Definitely beats pinning in a spot that still has a depot in it.

 

[unkazra1]

My protocol includes 60mg Test Cyp every 4 days. So far I've just been rotating left and right glute every 4 days. So basically every 8 days I'm injecting in the same spot.

Both injection sites are now starting to get sore after weeks of rotating the same 2 spots.

I ordered different sized needles so I can inject in my legs as well but they haven't arrived yet...

So for now I'm going to be stuck injecting into a sore muscle today... Any tips or experience with this?

Why not switch to 1x/week inj.. at least while your sore?? Do you think it will make that much of a difference in your levels if you only inj 1x week vs 2x?? My father switched to 1x week inj and his levels remained perfect.

And I agree with HWit.. Try your quads. There's a lot of space to move around on each quad muscle so your not pinning same spot.

 

[3J]

Nothing against what 3J is recommending, but a 25g 1 is what I use for quads/delts/pecs/ventroglutes. If you have 1.5" pins, just don't go in all the way, until you get your new pins.

Definitely beats pinning in a spot that still has a depot in it.

yea i know youre right half..

but that 25g needle will cause quicker scar tissue buildup.. we are on for life.. we have to think about the long run lol

 

[babyface58]

Why not switch to 1x/week inj.. at least while your sore?? Do you think it will make that much of a difference in your levels if you only inj 1x week vs 2x?? My father switched to 1x week inj and his levels remained perfect.

And I agree with HWit.. Try your quads. There's a lot of space to move around on each quad muscle so your not pinning same spot.

I'm doing E4D because I did weekly injections before and got insane acne. E4D gives me acne but not as bad due to less fluctuations.

Good point about being able to inject in different areas of each quad... So I could actually do each quad twice before having to go back to glutes...

 

[Gbrad]

I just do once week 140mg test c. Draw with 19 gauge needle and switch to 25 gauge 5/8 needle. I don't see value in insulin type needles. Prob because I'm too impatient lol.

I do break up HCG into 2 375iu shots wk with insulin needle. HCG is quick and easy to draw and shoot vs test though.

 

[babyface58]

Thanks for the info guys... Just used a 31g 5/16" insulin syringe to inject into the delt... Obviously a tiny needle so probably just got subQ but had to do something to hold me over, figured it was better than nothing. As soon as my needles arrive in the mail I'll do another injection.

 

[Onk]

I use 19g to draw and 23g to inject. Sounds like I'm using an elephant dart compared to you guys!

 

[bigben66]

I use 19g to draw and 23g to inject. Sounds like I'm using an elephant dart compared to you guys!

Ouch!!!!

 

[TRTnooby]

I use 23G 1 " needles to inject into the quads, they're big enough to rotate around plenty. I have a tiny bit of soreness occasionally, but nothing major.

 

[babyface58]

I use 19g to draw and 23g to inject. Sounds like I'm using an elephant dart compared to you guys!

Yeah couldn't imagine lol.