Injection question

[Royfarfel]

I'm about to run my first cycle of Test Cypionate. I've never done an intermuscular injection before, I've researched how to perform the injection but am a little confused on a few things.

The best syringe I could find were 29 gauge 1'' inch insulin ones from my local pharmacy, they don't have disposable needle heads they are like one time use things, will these work?

I've seen some tutorials where it shows using one needle head to load the gear and another to inject.

I want to inject in the thigh, will the 1' inch head on these needles be long enough?

As far as I can tell I just need to sterilize injection site, load test, check for air bubbles, aspirate, and inject ...is this correct, anything I'm missing?

Any help is much appreciated, I don't want to screw this up.

 

[SolomonGrundy]

yes those will work, it will just take you 3 or 4 min to fill it and there will be lots of air bubble , just let it sit for a few min.
having a larger gauge to load with is convenient and you ovoid the issue you will see when you try to pull the oil through that little pin, but it will go into your leg easy, probable take 15 good sec to push it all out too, dont rush it. one inch is perfect for quads.
great reference for injections is www.spotinjections.com

 

[fancyhuh101]

they will work but it is going to take a long time to draw the test in the stringe because how small the needle is , usually u would draw with an 18G and they inject with 25G , ur gonna have to be patient when u try to draw , 1" needle can probably be used for almost all injection sites glutes, quads delts depending however how high in body fat u are , if u are above 15% that may not work , tomake it a bit easier , if u are going to draw 1ml of oil , first pull the plunger back to 1ml and inject 1ml of air into the vial , it will help get the oil out easier . check out spotinjection.com for more details and injection sites

 

[prnscrn]

Those little 29 gauge insulin syringes will not work. They don't have the vacuum available to pull thick oils through a small gauge needle.

Best to use the 21 gauge needles with the 3cc syringe for pulling thick oils. Then change over to the 23 or 25 gauge to inject with.

 

[3ct]

Those little 29 gauge insulin syringes will not work. They don't have the vacuum available to pull thick oils through a small gauge needle.

obviously you've never done it before. a lot of people shoot with slin pins, that's all i use is slin pins.

 

[prnscrn]

obviously you've never done it before. a lot of people shoot with slin pins, that's all i use is slin pins.

I have tried using a 1cc and .5cc insulin pin to extract thick oil. I couldn't get it to work or didn't have the patience to wait 5 minutes as they fill very slowly. I have backloaded them before with a larger syringe that has the appropriate sized needle that seems to be the fastest way to load one.

As for pinning, those insulin syringes work great. Filling them is another story.

 

[3ct]

I have tried using a 1cc and .5cc insulin pin to extract thick oil. I couldn't get it to work or didn't have the patience to wait 5 minutes as they fill very slowly. I have backloaded them before with a larger syringe that has the appropriate sized needle that seems to be the fastest way to load one.

As for pinning, those insulin syringes work great. Filling them is another story.

that's a more accurate response. to say "it will not work" is clearly inaccurate. first of all i've never done it with a .5cc and not sure why you would, need at least 1cc in most cases i would imagine. anyway, i dont think it takes that long 5 minutes but, yes it is pretty slow, it will come down one drop at a time. you can warm up your oil to help that. fill up a bowl with hot water from the sink and then put the vial inside a ziplock baggie and put the baggie in the bowl of water, wait a few minutes and it should be warm enough. i don't even really have to do that anymore, don't have any issues. i've been using only slin pins for nearly a year.

also, even if it takes you a little more time to draw i think it's worth it over getting scar tissue over time from using the bigger gauges.

 

[Royfarfel]

Thanks for your responses. I have hairy legs, one or two guides said to shave the injection site, is this actually necessary?

 

[prnscrn]

that's a more accurate response. to say "it will not work" is clearly inaccurate. first of all i've never done it with a .5cc and not sure why you would, need at least 1cc in most cases i would imagine. anyway, i dont think it takes that long 5 minutes but, yes it is pretty slow, it will come down one drop at a time. you can warm up your oil to help that. fill up a bowl with hot water from the sink and then put the vial inside a ziplock baggie and put the baggie in the bowl of water, wait a few minutes and it should be warm enough. i don't even really have to do that anymore, don't have any issues. i've been using only slin pins for nearly a year.

also, even if it takes you a little more time to draw i think it's worth it over getting scar tissue over time from using the bigger gauges.

I don't see why people want to use insulin syringes with fixed needles when you can purchase small gauge (27G or 29G) replaceable needles for your larger syringes. That way you can save time drawing with your 21G or whatever and then switch over to your 27G needles. By the way, I am not sure if they sell 29G replaceable needles. I don't use anything that small.

 

[fancyhuh101]

you dont have to shave your legs , um sure they are not hairy enough that you are going to put the pin through your hair when u r injecting ..... are you lol

 

[Royfarfel]

Thanks. I did my first shot last night and it seemed to go fine. But now this morning my thigh where I injected is really sore, feels like I got punched in it and I've been limping around. Is this normal, does it mean I did something wrong?

 

[fancyhuh101]

all normal man , this happens to all of us , especialy when u first start , its called pip (post injection pain) , i get it for about 3-4 days , then it goes away , can be pretty bad at times , feel like a big bruise and cause immobility but it will go away .

 

[3ct]

I don't see why people want to use insulin syringes with fixed needles when you can purchase small gauge (27G or 29G) replaceable needles for your larger syringes. That way you can save time drawing with your 21G or whatever and then switch over to your 27G needles. By the way, I am not sure if they sell 29G replaceable needles. I don't use anything that small.

yeah that's the problem they don't make 29g or even 27g replaceable needles (i was looking into it), the only ones they make are 27g 1.5" but, I don't go over 1" or whatever size those slin pins are with the fixed pins. so just stick with the fixed pins.

 

[SolomonGrundy]

might hurt for 2 days, completely normal, walk it off or rub it a bit.

 

[prnscrn]

yeah that's the problem they don't make 29g or even 27g replaceable needles (i was looking into it), the only ones they make are 27g 1.5" but, I don't go over 1" or whatever size those slin pins are with the fixed pins. so just stick with the fixed pins.

Well, I decided to look into what small gauge replaceable needles are available. There seems to be a better selection and variety for these small needles now than before.

Certain suppliers carry quite a bit more selection than others. At this popular supplier, I have found Exel 30G x 1", B-D 27G x 1.25", and EXEL 27G x 1.25". That is kind of interesting, since last time I looked they did not carry anything over a half an inch.

And even though they don't have 27G X 1" the 1.25" needle is a suitable replacement, since it is not necessary to stick the needle all the way in to get your desired length.