Is Andromed Labs Fake Gear? PLEASE HELP

[CarelessPassion]

Hey guys, has anyone had an experience with AML? I tried there superdrol for 4 weeks 30mgs put on ZERO muscle size added about 30 pounds to my dumbell press. I used the Sdrol to kick start my Npp, Test P cycle. After 3 Weeks of 500mg test p, 400mg NPP, I noticed virtual NO GAINS. So I said f it, threw in 500 mgs of test e weekly to the cycle. after 5 weeks of test p, npp and 2 weeks of test e STILL i notice no strength increase, lethargy, majorly bloated stomach, sex drive increased hugely, but almost NO muscle gains, so I decided what the HELL ill buy some of there Dbol to... so after 4 days of dbol im starting noticing a bit of muscle gains... Is this at all possible if the gear is legit?.... I mean come on... 500 mgs test p, 400 mgs npp, 500 mgs test e AND 40 mgs of dbol and STILL not noticing huge gains?

Stats: I am 23, 5'11, 188 pounds, 11% bodyfat, 3400 - 4000 calories a day, 200ish grams protein, 300ish carbs...
training 6 days a week Push pull legs in the 8-12 rep range...
I have done one cycle before of test E, 500mgs for 12 weeks I put on about 15 pounds kept it all after PCT and added 30 pounds to my dumbell press, got acne coming off, was bloated and high lipido during cycle, but noticed NO GAINS until week 10 or 11...

I paid with ********, is there ANY WAY I could get my money back... I feel like I have been completely scammed... Should I call it quits and spend like ***** dollars on another cycle.... after spending like ***** already........... someone for the love of god help me... Maybe im just expecting to much?

 

[Kazmir]

You should be seeing some changes for sure, if you are truly eating 4000 cals per day at 188 pounds you should be gaining regardless of the gear.
Post exactly what you ate yesterday to give us an idea of your diet.
As far as getting your money back, its not really an option even though you paid with *********.

 

[SamSport]

lol your test E isnt even kicked in yet.. your superdrol helped you gain 30 pounds on dumbell press.. isnt that a strenght gain... AML is supposed to be legit, you pay the price but the gear is legit

 

[SamSport]

lethargy isnt a good sign.. take an additional day of reste

 

[baseball40]

Ran two cycles w them, I'm 6'5 and went from 190lbs to 240lbs. Used test c, var, deca on the 1st cycle and t300, deca and dbol on the 2nd cycle.

 

[bigkit34]

Have ran aml twice with good results. Either your diet isn't on point or your not training properly

 

[ketogenicbulldog]

I say wait for a couple more weeks till that tests kicks in.

Also if you're getting around 200g of protein and 300ish carbs you're getting too much fat if it's making up 50% of your caloric diet.

I'd say you're probably not counting and/or are off by a significant number on your macros

 

[Protobuilder69]

If you're telling the truth about not gaining any muscle, bodyweight, I would just toss that crap.
I've seen friends put on 5lb in the first week of dbol with a caloric deficit, and gained 12-15lb at week 5-6 when the test kicked in, all with a caloric deficit (yes lots of water weight), they would probably put on 20lb in a surplus.

I would chuck it as a loss and move to a different lab.

 

[Trust_]

for more then 2 years now AML has provided us with great quality gear.... but you, got bunk gear.....
To me it sounds like a huge lack of experience with gear...
Your case is typical...Some people think because they use gear they should look like arnold 2 months later lol....

If you had more experience, you would know that the increase sex drive is in direct relation with the gear quality and potency (testosterone wise).

 

[CarelessPassion]

Yes, I am getting to much fats its really hard for me to scarf down all those calories to the point where I'm like about to throw up. Either having sex for 3+ hours a day is burning so many calories that somehow I'm in a caloric deficit? The gear is fake, or I have a retardedly high metabolism? Because i do ZERO cardio.

Usual day of eating looks like this

Breakfast 1 cup of oats (700 calories), 1/3 cup of buds, mass gainer shake (500 calories), half cup of milk
Snack 660 calories of sunflower seeds
Lunch 3 eggs, baked potato
Before gym mass gainer shake 500 calories
After gym cup of rice, 1lb of ground beef
Night time mass gainer shake and 2 eggs

Thats normally a typical day of eating for me. My diet is on my fridge, I stick to is religiously. I just find is very hard to believe on ALL those 9/10 muscle building compounds im BARELY making gains...
I am a university student, so im broke as hell. Which means I literally eat the same thing every day...

I mean its quite clear i know how to make gains naturally. And made decent gains on test E but i mean come on, I am pretty much abusing the stuff at this point and noticing virtually nothing...

 

[ketogenicbulldog]

Well you'll probably get flamed for those mass gainer shakes. Oats are a good source of carbs and they're dirt cheap...fit more of those into your diet aka make your own mass gainer shakes!

And nutrition wise you're probably a little short. Try to get a couple fruits and veggies into your budget

 

[Mikeybltd]

Your diets shit. I don't know about aml gear but learn to eat properly and you'll make gains on or off cycle.

 

[CarelessPassion]

Well you'll probably get flamed for those mass gainer shakes. Oats are a good source of carbs and they're dirt cheap...fit more of those into your diet aka make your own mass gainer shakes!

And nutrition wise you're probably a little short. Try to get a couple fruits and veggies into your budget

Why would I get flamed? The mass gainer is far superior to a "chicken breast" in every way. The mass gainer I use isn't loaded with sugar and filler. Also calorie and protein wise is FAR cheaper and more convenient than eating a steak, or chicken where im from. A pound of chicken breast is 6 dollars + tax....

 

[CarelessPassion]

Why do you say my diet is "shit", I have used every calculator there is in calculating my macros and calorie needs and I am about 600-700 calories over the caloric surplus I need at this bodyweight to gain weight as well as hitting all my macros. Including 40grams of l leucine and 15+ grams of glutamine. And have also put on 38 pounds of muscle in 15 months, only 15 of those pounds coming unnaturally.

 

[Mikeybltd]

The fact your using mass gainers proves you know nothing about diet sorry bro but you shouldnt be using gear. Everything else in your diet is very average as well.

 

[Mikeybltd]

Real food is far superior over any mass gain shake.

 

[FlyMolo]

Why would I get flamed? The mass gainer is far superior to a "chicken breast" in every way. The mass gainer I use isn't loaded with sugar and filler. Also calorie and protein wise is FAR cheaper and more convenient than eating a steak, or chicken where im from. A pound of chicken breast is 6 dollars + tax....

Goodbye credibility we barely knew you.

 

[Mikeybltd]

Im not picking on you, just informing you that you shouldnt be on gear with such little nutrition knowledge, your not gaining any muscle because you dont have the correct nutrients to fuel your body to grow.
You have all the side effects of using gear but no results that just proves your gear is not bunk but your not feeding your body enough fuel to grow.

 

[YODATRON]

Real food and more real food will help you gain weight not shakes and supplements food food and more food I eat like ten times what you do and still feel like I should be eating more you need 6-10 good meals a day if you want gains enough said cheers

 

[Trust_]

Im not picking on you, just informing you that you shouldnt be on gear with such little nutrition knowledge, your not gaining any muscle because you dont have the correct nutrients to fuel your body to grow.
You have all the side effects of using gear but no results that just proves your gear is not bunk but your not feeding your body enough fuel to grow.

Exactly my point.
You dont know what you re doing, stop bashing a good lab because you are ignorant.