Is dbol and winny a good pair to stack?

pappabear38

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Would Dbol and Winny be a good stack? Was thinking of running dbol the first half of cycle and finishing with winny, or would that be counterproductive since dbol is for size and winny for the most part is a hard leaner. Any help on the matter appreciated.
 
I tend to find that I do better when I focus either on cutting or bulking. Whenever I tried (and I did early on) to combine both into one cycle I was robbing myself and didnt accomplish either one optimally. So my answer is if that is your goal no it is not a good idea.
 
Thanks,yes size is my goal for this cycle to push through some sticking points with certain body parts. What is a good partner with dbol then?
 
Will be running Cyp. Sorry should of specified that. Am looking for a third to stack since dbol can only be ran safely for so few weeks of a cycle.
 
Heres my opinion, first of all you need testosterone as a base you your cycle, or any cycle for that matter. Ive actually ran 'bulking' drugs and 'cutting' drugs together and really like it and have had great results. Muscle fullness and hardness all at the same time, and you can stay pretty dry looking if you dont let your estrogen get outta control. Now, dbol AND winstrol together im not sure thats the best idea, both of those drugs are quite harmful on your liver and toxic. Lastly if your are thinking of running both of these in oral form, do NOT do this, you will cause more harm than good and be left with nothing in the end.
 
4th cycle. I have done 2 just straight Cyp and 1 with Cyp and eq. Use aromasin on cycle and pct with nolva. I do have letro for emergency if estro gets too carried away. What about tren and dbol then with Cyp?
 
Tren is the god of all steroids, although it can carry some pretty scary side effects depending on the person. If you were going to run tren, id run the acetate ester incase you experience bad side effects you can bail out. If you run Tren id drop the dbol, test and tren together is all a guy really needs. Masteron works very with test as well, it all depends on what look you are trying to achieve, what are you looking to accomplish?
 
Trying to increase my size of course, widen out the back and get my mid delts popping out. No matter what routine I have trained with those two are my nemesis as far as gaining quality muscle. Running straight cyp isn't doing it(anymore),so I am looking for the best way to get there with my workouts.
 
No steroid is going to give you a site enhancing effect or make a particular muscle group grow, its either a genetic thing why they wont grow or you are training them incorrectly. I am by no means saying you train wrong because i have no idea who you are but i see sooooo many people that train incorrectly and wonder why the dont grow, most of the time guys train WAY too heavy and use improper form, therefore the targeted muscle group hardly gets worked. No disrespect at all bro, just some food for thought.
 
no disrespect or offense taken bro. I shouldn't say they don't grow but medial delt head is the runt of the group. As far as back is concerned i can get the thickness(deadlifter) but training for my wings/v taper is slow going. Cyp has helped to a certain point along with my workouts. judging by the photo shred whats something that works for you and your shoulder workout. I know gear is to only help and that its the intelligence of training and nutrition that gets the man to his goals.
 
For me, my shoulders were given to me at birth, they have always grown well with minimal direct training, i trained them every other week and even every three weeks for the longest time as they were always too far ahead of other muscle groups. Tips for shoulder id give would honestly go for back as well.

Forget the number on the db or bb you are lifting, use a weight that the muscle group can handle with perfect form. You will not benefit by swinging weights around. Perform your reps at a controlled speed and focus on negatives, dont just let the weight drop, the negative portion of the rep imo is more important than anything. And dont take long breaks between sets, you want to push as much blood into them as possible. For shoulders, you want them to burn, bad while you train them. As for the lateral head, when you do your rep keep tension on the at all time, dont let your arms go to low on the negative that tension is taken off them and when you get to the top turn the back of your hand up, like your pouring a jug of water out, and never let your hand come up higher than your shoulders.
 
I use cable machine for the lateral 15 to 20 sec rest. will try the hand up technique next shoulder day. and yes I have a dedicated back day. Pull ups, cable rows, t-bar row deadlifts, lat pull downs and bent over rows. I vary my grips from close to wide and I pick 4 exercises of the list above to put my workout together.
 
For back, keep you shoulder blades pinched back at all time, never let your shoulder roll forward or come lose in the socket, you do this and all tension is taken off your back and lats. And keep your lower back in a locked position and bent back, never ever have it arched and do not use your lower back to help the weight get going, almost every person i see does these two things, and its wrong.
 
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Trying to increase my size of course, widen out the back and get my mid delts popping out. No matter what routine I have trained with those two are my nemesis as far as gaining quality muscle. Running straight cyp isn't doing it(anymore),so I am looking for the best way to get there with my workouts.

You are thinking that certain compounds are targeting certain muscles, Wrong. Learn more about what steroids do and the profiles.
No steroid is going to give you a site enhancing effect or make a particular muscle group grow, its either a genetic thing why they wont grow or you are training them incorrectly. I am by no means saying you train wrong because i have no idea who you are but i see sooooo many people that train incorrectly and wonder why the dont grow, most of the time guys train WAY too heavy and use improper form, therefore the targeted muscle group hardly gets worked. No disrespect at all bro, just some food for thought.

This ^^ right on the money!

no disrespect or offense taken bro. I shouldn't say they don't grow but medial delt head is the runt of the group. As far as back is concerned i can get the thickness(deadlifter) but training for my wings/v taper is slow going. Cyp has helped to a certain point along with my workouts. judging by the photo shred whats something that works for you and your shoulder workout. I know gear is to only help and that its the intelligence of training and nutrition that gets the man to his goals.


For back, keep you shoulder blades pinched back at all time, never let your shoulder roll forward or come lose in the socket, you do this and all tension is taken off your back and lats. And keep your lower back in a locked position and bent back, never ever have it arched and do not use your lower back to help the weight get going, almost every person i see does these two things, and its wrong.

The AAS is helping all around. No steroid in particular targets anything. YOU with your workout target. Your thinking is off about this Cyp thing.

Also as was said. Forget what you think you should lift and lift what you are able in a more strict exercise. Learn to connect your mind with your muscle. Two to three different different exercises. INTENSE. Get Arnold Schwarzenegger's Encyclopedia of Modern Body building. It will NEVER be outdated.
 
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I wouldn't combine to orals they are both toxic on the liver its a bad idea. Like jimi said you don't need more than test and dbol for your goals. Their is a possibility testosterone on its own will work. D-bol would definitely help though. In the end its all about finding out what steroids your body tolerates and which ones give you shitty side effects. Every one is different lol
 
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