Is deca superior to test?

[shizz702]

From what I've gathered it has seemed test is king, and always the staple to any cycle. But then I came across this interesting discussion xxxxxxxxx
and the consensus here is that anabolics like deca and tren are far superior to it, recoomending little to no test. So it has me wondering.

I'm just curious as to what you guys think of this.

 

[justhav2p]

always run test first cycle to see what your sides are.

Test should be run in every cycle... tren and test fight for same receptors so a low maintenance dose of test is great if your tren dose is much higher.

But yes, other steroids are far better, but should always be taken with test.

 

[UserAt204]

Test is king. It's a natural hormone and IMO people who use gear got most of their gains from test. Tren is much stronger then test and yes it works well using low test higher tren.

With deca a prefer equal amounts or test higher. IMO the combination of test/deca produces unreal gains. Tren/test also produces rock hard solid gains if BF is low/normal and produces good all around gains at an BF.

You don't want to run either of these without test especially if you like using your chicken and eggs. Well the eggs won't be doing much anyway.

 

[shizz702]

Some good responses.

Bumping this and hoping to see a good discussion on this topic.

So test should always be ran even if at low doses?

 

[shizz702]

Test is king. It's a natural hormone and IMO people who use gear got most of their gains from test. Tren is much stronger then test and yes it works well using low test higher tren.

With deca a prefer equal amounts or test higher. IMO the combination of test/deca produces unreal gains. Tren/test also produces rock hard solid gains if BF is low/normal and produces good all around gains at an BF.

You don't want to run either of these without test especially if you like using your chicken and eggs. Well the eggs won't be doing much anyway.

Great response.

One thing I would like to see expanded on is the old "deca d!ck" issue.

I noticed a lot of posters on that thread commented as if that were a myth or that high dose test was the real cause of libido problems and not deca.

I'm still with the test is king camp, but am just now more open minded to other compounds after reading up on that thread.

Also, I'm just getting started in the gear game so I still want to keep things as simple as possible, and don't plan on adding more compounds til I get more experience under my belt.

Just started with test e and dbol, and I think for my second round I will do test and deca and leave it at that.

What I'm wondering though now is it better to dose the deca higher than the test?

 

[ErectusMaximus]

What I'm wondering though now is it better to dose the deca higher than the test?

No. Keep your dose of test higher than your dose of Deca. Example: 500mg test 400mg deca

I use a 1:1 ratio test to deca so 500/500, BUT I have used deca before and have had such a lack of sides that I tried 1:1 and it was okay for me. It's better to find out this way then no boner.

Reasons like this are why you only add 1 compound at a time. This is the only way you can tell what your sensitive too and what works best. Everyone is a little different so we all use the same "guidelines" and tweak it a little.


I would not ever take more deca than test though. Tren/Test is another issue in itself, but save that for cycle 3-5 somewhere in there. Tren is not for beginners.