Is Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) blast to blame for post cycle therapy (pct) gyno?

[Massive123]

Is HCG blast to blame for pct gyno?

So I ran Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for the first time last cycle. It def kept the boys fuller & I felt it definitely helped speed up recovery. The problem is this post cycle therapy (pct) I had a lot of problems with estrogen & gyno that popped up and that was particularly harder to control than on cycle ever before. I was doing some reading that suggests Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) boosts estrogen levels more than test levels which obviously leads me to believe that this might have increased the gyno issues I had post cycle.



I'm not saying not to use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) bc it definitely has it's purpose, but I think the blast I did the week before ending might be the reason for the increased estrogen levels & gyno symptoms as a result.

Any opinions?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

well in SWALE's thread he does say Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) causes aromatization-so it sounds like it was the culprit-good point though i never thought of that

 

[Ythrashin]

Yeah, Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will increase estrogen by increasing testosterone. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) also will also stimulate more progestin production.

How much Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) did you run during your cycle and blast?

 

[Animal1852]

So I ran Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for the first time last cycle. It def kept the boys fuller & I felt it definitely helped speed up recovery. The problem is this post cycle therapy (pct) I had a lot of problems with estrogen & gyno that popped up and that was particularly harder to control than on cycle ever before. I was doing some reading that suggests Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) boosts estrogen levels more than test levels which obviously leads me to believe that this might have increased the gyno issues I had post cycle.

Here is the link


I'm not saying not to use Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) bc it definitely has it's purpose, but I think the blast I did the week before ending might be the reason for the increased estrogen levels & gyno symptoms as a result.

Any opinions?

Yes it's true Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) can use gyno, that is one of the reasons why I will be switching to aromasin the last 4 weeks of the cycle and post cycle therapy (pct) for Aromatase inhibitor (AI). Because it can be run into post cycle therapy (pct) it can help keep the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) blast estro issues at bay. Maybe it is not too late to run the aromasin if you have it and are in post cycle therapy (pct).

 

[Massive123]

I'm not one of these idiot kids... I ran aromasin throughout my cycle & into the begining of post cycle therapy (pct). My post cycle therapy (pct) was august - sept so I've been done for a while... The gyno problems I had during & after post cycle therapy (pct) were more aggressive than anything I've experienced on cycle. I ran letro from sept through last week and it would reduce nip pain & slight puffiness but if I stopped using it after a day or two it would come back. The lumps are real small it's more of puffiness around the nips that I can't stand. I literally stopped using it bc my sex drive is so fucked up I can't fuckin stand it. Even with Viagra my dick doesn't get as hard as it should... Shit with basically zero estrogen from the letro I don't think all the viagara in the world would make a difference. At this point I'm writing off the nip issues, if it gets puffy fuck it...with the new INS changes I'll have INS back in the next few months & if it gets any worse I'll cut it out and be done with this

moral of the story-- if you're sensitive to gyno, don't blast before post cycle therapy (pct) unless you want some real resistant gyno symptoms!!!

 

[JMC]

Massive, did you run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) into PCT??? When I ran Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) I stopped 4 days before.

Do you use Clomid??

 

[Massive123]

I blasted & then began post cycle therapy (pct) a week later. Yes I used clomid

 

[Turtleneck1971]

Yeah i'm useing Hcg for the first time this time around and am a little nervous. I'm not prone to gyno symptoms but there can always be a first.. good luck bro.

 

[Ythrashin]

Yeah i'm useing Hcg for the first time this time around and am a little nervous. I'm not prone to gyno symptoms but there can always be a first.. good luck bro.

Just monitor and bump up your Aromatase inhibitor (AI) if needed and you should be ok

 

[Massive123]

Bump.

Anyone else attribute gyno symptoms to hcg??

 

[Uruk Hai]

Bump.

Anyone else attribute gyno symptoms to hcg??

I'm thinking mine is caused by Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as well.

I bumped the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) from 500iu to 1000iu for a few weeks and dropped my exemestane (12.5 ed) because I thought I was getting low estro sides. 5 days later, itchy, then hurty, then lump. So I'm taking 25mg exemestane ed and 40mg nolva ed, all thats left is itchy nipples. But its fucking annoying. Once the itchy goes away I'll drop the dose of nolva and then discontinue.

I've also stopped the hcg.

 

[Dreaded Pirate Roberts]

I call BS. I've run very high dose cycle with Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and never had problems. If your runnig an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) like you should you wouldn't have a problem anyways.

 

[R1rider]

^ good to know, i was about to order some. No more HCG

 

[Uruk Hai]

^ good to know, i was about to order some. No more HCG

I would still say use hcg.

I'm just doing some trial and error to figure out my issue.

 

[Massive123]

I don't think that's bs at all the kid stopped running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) & blasted Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) which obviously raised his estro levels too high. What's bs about that? Next time you're worried about low estro don't blast Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) just run the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) eod or e3d instead of eD and never bump Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) simply to raise estro! After a few days estro goes back up unless it's een nuked with letro & then it might take longer. I'd never bump Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) simply to raise estro, just minimize Aromatase inhibitor (AI) use a little!

 

[Scarz]

i'm going to bump this thread.
i'm not a fan of blasting hcg.
if ure a fan of blasting Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) bring forth some back-up. i'm open to changing my view on it, but pls explain why a blast of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) would be considered and/or running through post cycle therapy (pct). convince me =)

 

[Mudge]

I never noticed a benefit to running single, large doses of hCG - tried it once and once only. Gave the same results as a single, small shot, so far as I could tell.

I'd be a proponent for use during the cycle, in lower 250-500iu doses.

 

[Ythrashin]

There is plenty of studies/evidence that show mega dosing/blasting Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is not a good method and can actually damage Leydig cells.

There are also a few studies that show that leydig cells not being exposed to LH/HCG for long periods of time can damage them.

Run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during your cycle at a low dose to keep your leydig cells exposed and running but dont mega dose....

 

[freakinhuge]

definitely not a fan of blasting hcg, just use a regular dose during your cycle and you should be all good.

 

[Conciliator]

Run Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during your cycle at a low dose to keep your leydig cells exposed and running but dont mega dose....

What he said.

You don't want testicular atrophy and dysfunction, so take hCG during your cycle. You don't want excessive aromatization and potential leydig cell desensitization, so don't blast hCG. If you take it during your cycle to maintain testicular function, there's no reason to blast it in the first place.