Is it possible to get my T levels back?

[Argon Coagulator]

HCG at 500-750iu QOD (every other day) tops along with Clomid at 50mg QOD has been shown to be efficacious in restoring testicular function.

Dr. Rand's protocol is 500iu EOD for 3-6 weeks before coming off cycle. He says your balls are like "Diesel engines", in that they can take a while to get "up and running".

Dr. O'Connor's restoration regimen involves higher doses of HCG 1500-2000 QOD for 3-6 months along with Clomid 50mg QOD.
O'Connor admits that most specialists will have you start HCG at 500iu QOD.

I'm 34 years old and am recently coming off a year long blast/cruise consisting of test, deca, EQ, Dbol and Anadrol. I didn't run HCG throughout the whole year, but I did run a bottle here and there at 500iu twice per week.

My approach to coming off is pretty aggressive - I followed Dr. Rand's protocol of 500iu QOD for the last 5-6 weeks before my last shot and for two weeks after while esters cleared.

Then I started Clomid at 50mg QOD and increased HCG to 750iu QOD for 4 days, 500iu QOD for 3 days, and 250iu for 2 days, which is a protocol from IFBB Pro Greg Doucette - He believes it's better to taper off HCG so your body gets used to producing test on it's own, rather than a sudden halt of higher amounts of HCG.

So basically I got my balls up and running toward the end of my cycle, and am also giving them one last BLAST of HCG while tapering down the dose, then my balls will have to rely on the Clomid for however many more weeks I decide to stay on it, probably atleasst 6-8 weeks total.

I tried 50mg Clomid every day at first, but it makes me feel like shit, so I went with Dr. O'connor's protocol of 50mg QOD (every OTHER day) and I feel great so far. I'm 17 days post cycle, my last two weeks being only 150mg then 100mg of test, so it is long and far out of my system and I have had no "crash" at all. I'm not nearly as horny as when I was on even HRT test, but I have morning wood almost every day and still maintain a good, stable mood for the most part. Hopefully I can maintain this level of well being after I complete my last shot of HCG on May 5th, using only the clomid and a few OTC test boosters (that are probably junk LOL).

 

[TahsRealm]

HCG at 500-750iu QOD (every other day) tops along with Clomid at 50mg QOD has been shown to be efficacious in restoring testicular function.

Dr. Rand's protocol is 500iu EOD for 3-6 weeks before coming off cycle. He says your balls are like "Diesel engines", in that they can take a while to get "up and running".

Dr. O'Connor's restoration regimen involves higher doses of HCG 1500-2000 QOD for 3-6 months along with Clomid 50mg QOD.
O'Connor admits that most specialists will have you start HCG at 500iu QOD.

I'm 34 years old and am recently coming off a year long blast/cruise consisting of test, deca, EQ, Dbol and Anadrol. I didn't run HCG throughout the whole year, but I did run a bottle here and there at 500iu twice per week.

My approach to coming off is pretty aggressive - I followed Dr. Rand's protocol of 500iu QOD for the last 5-6 weeks before my last shot and for two weeks after while esters cleared.

Then I started Clomid at 50mg QOD and increased HCG to 750iu QOD for 4 days, 500iu QOD for 3 days, and 250iu for 2 days, which is a protocol from IFBB Pro Greg Doucette - He believes it's better to taper off HCG so your body gets used to producing test on it's own, rather than a sudden halt of higher amounts of HCG.

So basically I got my balls up and running toward the end of my cycle, and am also giving them one last BLAST of HCG while tapering down the dose, then my balls will have to rely on the Clomid for however many more weeks I decide to stay on it, probably atleasst 6-8 weeks total.

I tried 50mg Clomid every day at first, but it makes me feel like shit, so I went with Dr. O'connor's protocol of 50mg QOD (every OTHER day) and I feel great so far. I'm 17 days post cycle, my last two weeks being only 150mg then 100mg of test, so it is long and far out of my system and I have had no "crash" at all. I'm not nearly as horny as when I was on even HRT test, but I have morning wood almost every day and still maintain a good, stable mood for the most part. Hopefully I can maintain this level of well being after I complete my last shot of HCG on May 5th, using only the clomid and a few OTC test boosters (that are probably junk LOL).

Wow thanks for this. And I havent taken clomid or nolva yet bc im worried about sides. I may just take the test and cruise 200Mg/wk. i see ppl recovering after yrs

 

[TahsRealm]

and if i did do trt, how often do i do hcg shots? can do it in same spot w t right? is it needed?

'fk

 

[TahsRealm]

bump

 

[Argon Coagulator]

and if i did do trt, how often do i do hcg shots? can do it in same spot w t right? is it needed?

'fk

It depends bro, if you are just starting TRT and your balls aren't shut down, 250-500iu 2x/wk should maintain their size and some test/sperm production. However, if you are already shutdown from being on TRT you need 500iu pinned QOD every other day for 3-6 weeks. When you feel they are "back" you can drop down to the maintenance schedule. If you are chronically shutdown (chronic low-T) from long term gear use despite being off for 6+ months, you may need the restoration regimen I posted above and stay on HCG for 3-6 months. Always pin the test and HCG in separate pins because water and oil don't mix well and doctors don't recommend doing so. I do mine separate.

 

[TahsRealm]

It depends bro, if you are just starting TRT and your balls aren't shut down, 250-500iu 2x/wk should maintain their size and some test/sperm production. However, if you are already shutdown from being on TRT you need 500iu pinned QOD every other day for 3-6 weeks. When you feel they are "back" you can drop down to the maintenance schedule. If you are chronically shutdown (chronic low-T) from long term gear use despite being off for 6+ months, you may need the restoration regimen I posted above and stay on HCG for 3-6 months. Always pin the test and HCG in separate pins because water and oil don't mix well and doctors don't recommend doing so. I do mine separate.

so if i decide to take test (Which i think i will), i should do that hcg protocol for the 3-6 wks?
tbh idt id use hcg consistently with trt


also, if cruise 200mg /test ( i obv get blood work every like 2months) would i have to take an ai all times?

 

[PapaNoel]

Do you even have a goal in mind here?

 

[Nicky_eye_lids]

got my wife pregnant on 2 years of HRT. Has nothing to do with what your taking, it has to do with FSH levels and sperm count. Even then it can be done with low FSH levels.

 

[themotherload]

2 injections of testosterone.
2 injections of HCG
4 per week.

Thats also not how it works, you dont "take a shot" because you're tired. TRT is for life, rest of your living life. Are you prepared for that?
Low test values has to be taken over a long period of time, lots of variables, shit...even what time of the day you take it will influence it.

yup, testosterone aint like coffee that you drink when your tired, listen to Santa!