Is Liver Juice the best liver support supplement?

Rucker

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Dear Ology,


We are here to prove Liver Juice is the best supplement for preventing liver toxicity from oral steroids.


I would like to give away a bottle of Liver Juice to someone about to start a cycle and willing to have alanine transaminase (ALT) and aspartate transaminase (AST) liver enzymes tested during their cycle.


You need to:
  • Be planning to use a methylated steroid
  • Have used the same methylated steroid in the past
  • Have had alanine transaminase (ALT) and aspartate transaminase (AST) tested during your past cycle of this methylated steroid.


The point of this research is to show that using Liver Juice before and during a cycle reduces steroid induced cholestasis. Cholestasis is the primary toxic effect caused from 17 alpha alkylated (17aa) steroids.


After a formal review of the most current scientific literature on milk thistle, it appears milk thistle has specific protective effects against anabolic/androgenic steroid induced liver toxicity.(14-19)


Use of methylated steroids (17aa) cause the liver to slow bile acid production, and create a bile acid insufficiency. If the liver gets clogged up enough a condition develops known as cholestasis. (11-19)


Luckily this liver condition is reversible. If you have suffered toxic effects from steroids (or other drugs) you can still improve the condition of your liver by improving bile acid levels. (14-20)


Studies have shown that milk thistle can reverse the decrease of bile acid production even during the use of methylated (17aa) steroids. So when steroids are in the liver inhibiting production of the beneficial bile acids and slowing bile acid outflow, milk thistle helps increase production of beneficial bile acids while enhancing the export of built up toxins (and methylated steroids) from the liver. (14-20)


Milk Thistle – Suffers from Poor Delivery

What’s most damaging to milk thistles reputation is that 90% of the milk thistle products on the market have very poor absorption at only about 8%. Our Liver Juice has up to 80% absorption efficiency due to the Liqua-Vade delivery system.(1-10)


Check out the comparison below -




We plan to prove how effective our Liver Juice is by gatherings data from actual steroid users. We will greatly appreciate your cooperation as will the entire community!


Please post up here if you are interested.


Jim Benvie,
Primordial Performance Marketing


Questions?


Phone – 1-800-568-2924
Email - info@primordialperformance.com
Visit - Primordial Performance


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I hear that Milk Thistle actually may hinder some gains. Does Liver Juice have this problem too? I am seriously considering buying a lot of this, and soon. I am just curious if it would hinder gains when taken during a Tbol/Test E/EQ/Var cycle.

Thanks.
 
I hear that Milk Thistle actually may hinder some gains. Does Liver Juice have this problem too? I am seriously considering buying a lot of this, and soon. I am just curious if it would hinder gains when taken during a Tbol/Test E/EQ/Var cycle.

Thanks.

Where have you heard this?

If anything keeping your liver healthy is going to allow your nutrients to be processed efficiently and keep your appetite up.

When the liver becomes compromised, guys start losing weight and turning weak and feeble.

I cant possibly see how milk thistle would hinder gains. Ive been on 10mL/day for the past 3 weeks and I'm still making awesome gains from Superdrone.

-Eric
 
damn I just got a bottle of milk thistle cuz my liv52 got held up. Im interested though... How would you say this stuff compares with Liv52???
 
Where have you heard this?

If anything keeping your liver healthy is going to allow your nutrients to be processed efficiently and keep your appetite up.

When the liver becomes compromised, guys start losing weight and turning weak and feeble.

I cant possibly see how milk thistle would hinder gains. Ive been on 10mL/day for the past 3 weeks and I'm still making awesome gains from Superdrone.

-Eric

ya, i heard this as well, someone posted it on here ( i think on 'ology)

something about it inhibits the AR's.

Eric, check out my thread about S4 and suppression, im interested in what you think, since I based it on one of your articles.

link to post:
http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/155835-sarms-s-4-suppression.html

thanks
 
but im on the liv juice, i feel great. haven't had liv values checked, but i will at end of cycle,
 
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