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wolfman010
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I tested at 134 a couple years ago but my most recent test was 405. Still low for a 23 year old I'd say. That's why I'm only doing 100mg E5D. Combined with the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) and HCG and my natty test I'm producing already, what do you guys think my test levels will be with 100mg E5D?
MoparMuscle
Amateur Bodybuilder
Your natty will shut down. It will start shutting down within a few days or weeks and be nil (close to zero) after a month or so. If your on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for life then natty will be gone pretty much if you ever stop testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for whatever reason or at least never back to as high as your pre levels. It's for life...
I'd expect 100mg e5d to get most guys into the normal upper range of healthy. 600-1000 (large range of possible).
I'd expect 100mg e5d to get most guys into the normal upper range of healthy. 600-1000 (large range of possible).
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MoparMuscle
Amateur Bodybuilder
Only bloods will really tell though because everyone metabolizes the drug different.
wolfman010
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I thought that was what HCG is for...to keep you from shutting down completely?
And I plan on getting these bloods done in about six weeks to see if I need adjusting:
Total Testosterone
Bioavailable Testosterone
Free Testosterone (if Bioavailable T is unavailable)
SHBG
DHT
Cholesterol
Estradiol
LH
FSH
Prolactin
Cortisol
Thyroid Panel
CBC
Comprehensive Metabolic Panel
Lipid Profile
PSA (age dependent)
Anything else I need to test for, or anything I can leave out of this list?
Thanks
And I plan on getting these bloods done in about six weeks to see if I need adjusting:
Total Testosterone
Bioavailable Testosterone
Free Testosterone (if Bioavailable T is unavailable)
SHBG
DHT
Cholesterol
Estradiol
LH
FSH
Prolactin
Cortisol
Thyroid Panel
CBC
Comprehensive Metabolic Panel
Lipid Profile
PSA (age dependent)
Anything else I need to test for, or anything I can leave out of this list?
Thanks
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MoparMuscle
Amateur Bodybuilder
I'd add Colesterol to the test, I always do.
Yes Hcg will stimulate the testicles to produce there thing
Yes Hcg will stimulate the testicles to produce there thing
wolfman010
New member
So technically I should be producing some natural test still with the HCG+the test cyp.?
CHIP WADOWSKI
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ABSOLUTELY. THAT IS THE POINT OF THERAPY DONE CORRECTLY.
wolfman010
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What's up Chip! How does that bloodwork look for a follow up in a few weeks? Thanks again for everything you've done so far
CHIP WADOWSKI
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Anytime you would like, pal. But give your protocol some time to settle in and start pounding the living monkey shit out of your girl before you get all hung up on blood work right away. Start living your new life. You'll know when you are ready for blood work. I'm only a text, e-mail, or phone call away.
wolfman010
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If that aint service I don't know what is. Thanks man...I will promptly get to pounding the living monkey shit outta my girlfriend
wolfman010
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Would you guys recommend any specific supplements for TRT?
I have whey, creatine (creapure micronized), mulit vitamin, fish oil
What level, Chip, or anyone, are we aiming for here in regards to total testosterone?
I have whey, creatine (creapure micronized), mulit vitamin, fish oil
What level, Chip, or anyone, are we aiming for here in regards to total testosterone?
There is a thread on here fairly recently that CJW2021 started regarding supps.
I would recommend you getting the blood work like you mentioned. I felt a ton better after 2 months and finally got blood work and found out my Estrogen was at 275. Once I knew that I could starting focusing on controlling that and feel even better.
wolfman010
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Well I got bloodwork before starting the protocol and my estrogen was high but still in range. I didn't test E2 though, so I'm going o do my protocol for a few weeks then I'll get that blood work, if anything, for peace of mind haha
What level, Chip, or anyone, are we aiming for here in regards to total testosterone?
What level, Chip, or anyone, are we aiming for here in regards to total testosterone?
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wolfman010
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I have good insurance but would just rather wait for a few weeks and then do it, to see how my body is handling the Test, HCG, and AI.
This is to all the guys who made adjustments to their first protocol when joining Maximus...what changes did you make, if any, and why?
This is to all the guys who made adjustments to their first protocol when joining Maximus...what changes did you make, if any, and why?
jomamma007
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How many blood tests does good insurance cover a year? I mean if we are with Chip and not through insurance, will they still cover anything. I have blue shield hmo if that helps...
EnhancedAthlete
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I thought with Chip's protocol as long as you are on the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) along with the test you will not shut your own natural test down?
MoparMuscle
Amateur Bodybuilder
It keeps them stimulated (I'd search for detail if you want the mechanics of it), not quite the same in my mind as them working on their own.
Chips protocol is great
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