Just got test cyp from internet - any way to test it?

[Hoodlum]

Just asked my doc about test enanthate (since he hadn't heard of test cyp, and it's pretty much the same). He replied with:

"It's an injection given every 3-6 weeks" - I'm sure his patients feel great on that...

 

[halfwit]

Thanks for letting me know this is an option. I didn't apply the gel this morning for the first time in weeks, and I can tell the difference already - it'll be good to be able to ease the transation from one to another. I got hold of some arimidex, which I'm going to take at 0.25mg EOD for a couple weeks and then get my E2 checked again.

I wonder... since test prop has a half life of only a couple of days, has anyone ever tried dosing small amounts of it on a daily basis, to try and mimic the body's own testosterone cycle more closely?

Yes, I do know a few that do. You really have to enjoy pinning though as this would mean a pretty big site rotation to prevent scar tissue buildup.

that is stupid that and i thought england have strict laws well on a plus side halfwit atleast your aloud guns i can get up to ten years in jail for possesing one..how i would love a ak 47 sat above my fire place for decoration

Ahh, very true. Although the AK-47 is one of the few weapons that has been cited and banned by name here in may places. It's kind of weird, we have Federal laws that oversee everything then we have State/City/County laws that then get to be nitpicky as well. So while the federal law regarding guns is still pretty open (some are very illegal), state/county/city laws prohibit them even further. It's really quite confusing sometimes.

Just asked my doc about test enanthate (since he hadn't heard of test cyp, and it's pretty much the same). He replied with:

"It's an injection given every 3-6 weeks" - I'm sure his patients feel great on that...

Yep, that's an asshat. He has no clue or business treating men with hormone problems. I strongly suggest you look for another doc while continuing your treatment on your own.

 

[1693]

Just asked my doc about test enanthate (since he hadn't heard of test cyp, and it's pretty much the same). He replied with:

"It's an injection given every 3-6 weeks" - I'm sure his patients feel great on that...

That kind of doc can only be useful if he let's you do your own pins (when you want) and he also needs to write the script for enough test and be willing to do the blood work you want.

The test E should work as well for you as the cyp and who knows maybe you can one day get the doc to see things in a more modern way so that he's more likely to help his testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) patients than harm them.

If the doc would do those things for you then your public health care would cover it all I'm thinkin

 

[Hoodlum]

Yes, I do know a few that do. You really have to enjoy pinning though as this would mean a pretty big site rotation to prevent scar tissue buildup.

I've still only done one so far, so I'll get back to you!

I did actually do it subq as opposed to IM, since I read in quite a lot of places that it's simpler and less painful, and doesn't make much of a difference overall, so maybe that would make a daily routine more manageable.

The site is still a little tender (about 36 hours later), with a small hard lump under the skin, but I gather this is to be expected.

 

[Hoodlum]

That kind of doc can only be useful if he let's you do your own pins (when you want) and he also needs to write the script for enough test and be willing to do the blood work you want.

The test E should work as well for you as the cyp and who knows maybe you can one day get the doc to see things in a more modern way so that he's more likely to help his testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) patients than harm them.

If the doc would do those things for you then your public health care would cover it all I'm thinkin

I've got my return appointment in about a month, so let's see what I can talk him into! To be honest, when I phoned him up and told him I was going to self medicate, he didn't even seem to care - didn't try to talk me out of it, didn't ask me where I was getting hold of my T from.

I feel so abandoned, *sniff*

 

[totalburnout]

I've still only done one so far, so I'll get back to you!

I did actually do it subq as opposed to IM, since I read in quite a lot of places that it's simpler and less painful, and doesn't make much of a difference overall, so maybe that would make a daily routine more manageable.

The site is still a little tender (about 36 hours later), with a small hard lump under the skin, but I gather this is to be expected.

Eeeek. I have zero experience with Test sub-q. hCG - yes and that's no biggy. A lump would scare me, so would pain 36hours later for a method that is supposed to be less invasive than IM. Intramuscular injections don't give me pain 36hours later. I'd research if other people have lumps as well.

 

[halfwit]

I've still only done one so far, so I'll get back to you!

I did actually do it subq as opposed to IM, since I read in quite a lot of places that it's simpler and less painful, and doesn't make much of a difference overall, so maybe that would make a daily routine more manageable.

The site is still a little tender (about 36 hours later), with a small hard lump under the skin, but I gather this is to be expected.

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of subQ injections myself as that lump bothers me. It can also bruise, which just doesn't seem appealing. If it works for you though, more power to you!

I've got my return appointment in about a month, so let's see what I can talk him into! To be honest, when I phoned him up and told him I was going to self medicate, he didn't even seem to care - didn't try to talk me out of it, didn't ask me where I was getting hold of my T from.

I feel so abandoned, *sniff*

Are you able to find a different doctor there? I don't know how the UK health system works to be honest, but it sounds like this guy is a piece of crap to be honest. He SHOULD care that you're having to do this on your own, not look the other way.

 

[Hoodlum]

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of subQ injections myself as that lump bothers me. It can also bruise, which just doesn't seem appealing. If it works for you though, more power to you!


Are you able to find a different doctor there? I don't know how the UK health system works to be honest, but it sounds like this guy is a piece of crap to be honest. He SHOULD care that you're having to do this on your own, not look the other way.

After doing some Googling... I think I went too deep with the jab. The lump is still there, about 1cm, tender to the touch. Not getting bigger, nothing visible, and not hot to touch, so don't think it's anything to worry about. I've seen some horror pics of lumps the size of tennis balls. I'm going to try the next one in the love handle area, bit more fat there! And I've managed to get some test that wasn't made in Iran, so I think that'll help ;-)

Re the doctor... I'm not really sure. Apparently I was very lucky to get a referral on the NHS in the first place, and by this point it seems to be becoming apparent I know more than most of them about testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) anyway! I'm not sure what benefit it would be. With the excellent help and answers to my questions I'm getting off all the great guys on here, I think I've got it all covered.

I really am very grateful to have been talked through so many things in what was a bit of a trying period. So thanks.

 

[halfwit]

After doing some Googling... I think I went too deep with the jab. The lump is still there, about 1cm, tender to the touch. Not getting bigger, nothing visible, and not hot to touch, so don't think it's anything to worry about. I've seen some horror pics of lumps the size of tennis balls. I'm going to try the next one in the love handle area, bit more fat there! And I've managed to get some test that wasn't made in Iran, so I think that'll help ;-)

Re the doctor... I'm not really sure. Apparently I was very lucky to get a referral on the NHS in the first place, and by this point it seems to be becoming apparent I know more than most of them about testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) anyway! I'm not sure what benefit it would be. With the excellent help and answers to my questions I'm getting off all the great guys on here, I think I've got it all covered.

I really am very grateful to have been talked through so many things in what was a bit of a trying period. So thanks.

I think going with a properly sized needle helps too in this case. I know a lot of guys prefer a 27g 3/8" for subQ as it allows you to go deep enough and you're not worried about going too deep or causing trauma from the high pressure caused by an insulin pin. Love handles are a great area as that's usually one of the last places we tend to vacate body fat.

Well, since your healthcare is free for the most part, I can see how having access to blood work and prescription AI's/test could be to your benefit. Obviously this is only if you can find a doc that's not a total retard, but I do think it's worth looking into. I too really appreciate the folks here as we're a pretty tight community and I know I've made a few friends here that have been very helpful. Keep us updated on how things go for you!

 

[1693]

I think it's suggested not to try to SQ more than .6mL as it will tend to leave a lump, they say more than that should be delivered IM.

Here's a thread THE-DET-OAK started that is pretty informative about injection site pain:

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/anabolic-steroid-forum/157651-injection-site-pain-read.html

 

[Hoodlum]

Thanks guys, just had a read through.

I did 0.4ml, 0.5" 29 gauge needle. I think I went a little too deep, too fast, and the needle was moving around. It was my first ever one, and I was a little nervous about injecting Iranian test, so cut me some slack ;-)

It's a lot better today, almost back to normal, so no lasting harm I figure. I am a little concerned about this extra head that's grown out of my shoulder though...

 

[SilverBackGorilla]

Never complain about extra head.