Just read Ology Faq and beginner's guide... I am NOT doing the right thing...

[LeoNtin]

Ok. I read every beginner guide and faq here. Great stuff. I am doing something that is not recommended, that is running an oral only cycle. Anavar. Guide says i should use plain Test for my first cycle. Im on week 4. I dont have any Test. Should i quit or just get on with it?

Thanks.

 

[Big_rich]

I've ran a var only cycle when I made my newbie mistakes and to be honest I really liked it. I didn't have issues at all I only ran it at 50mg but I was very veiny and had strength gains but I wouldn't run it again without test. if you want to do things right go ahead and jump off do a basic pct wait for say 2 months and do a proper cycle add 400mg test to your var and grow. Your first is always your most productive Cyclear don't short change yourself with a var only cycle do things right.

 

[Milton]

your not baking a cake here do it right bro.

 

[Thezilla]

I to ran a var cycle for my first.... If you can even call it a cycle....I personally enjoyed it and see nothing wrong with it.... It's just giving you a little taste of the darkside and how it feels to have that's strength of a beast!!! You keep you diet clean and you will see an amazing transformation as far and lean muscle mass goes given that you are at least under 15 percent body fat!!! I think I was at about 7 percent at the time!!!! My personally enjoyed it and I would ride it out and enjoy if I were you before you really make things complicated...lol

 

[LeoNtin]

Ok. Thanks for the replies.

So if i got it right, there is nothing wrong with continuing this cycle at this dosage (40mg). Only wrong with this is I wont get the result I would if I would stick to the beginner cycle, plain test that is. Im thinking about shortening the cycle to 6 weeks in total and then doing a mild pct (nolva/clomid combo sounds ok right?) for 2-3 weeks. Then Ill wait at least 2 months and consider running the beginner cycle.
How does that sound?

 

[jozifp103]

Not recommended. I'd try to find test if possible.

however, the whole stigma against oral only cycles is a bit overdramatized. I would never do it or recommend it, but there's tons of blood work on the internet that shows that a lot of orals aren't all that suppressive. I've seen counts of people running anavar at moderate doses for 8-10 weeks with only minor suppression. I've seen the same with dbol and tbol....i haven't seen any others. It's doable and can be done without too many issues, but why bother when you can do it right and get far better results, and feel like a million bucks?

 

[oldmusclemike]

Not recommended. I'd try to find test if possible.

however, the whole stigma against oral only cycles is a bit overdramatized. I would never do it or recommend it, but there's tons of blood work on the internet that shows that a lot of orals aren't all that suppressive. I've seen counts of people running anavar at moderate doses for 8-10 weeks with only minor suppression. I've seen the same with dbol and tbol....i haven't seen any others. It's doable and can be done without too many issues, but why bother when you can do it right and get far better results, and feel like a million bucks?

You should probably stop and PCT if you really are serious about doing a real and safe cycle.
At week 4 even if you plugged in the Test now it would take weeks to get going to add anything to this cycle.

Poor planning but there is another cycle down the road to do better.

 

[JimiThing]

WTF is going on here...NO you shouldnt continue, stop it immediately!!!
Im serious and anyone that says otherwise is a fool. Stop, allow your hpta to recover, do some homework and save the var you have to throw in with your next xyxle, the one you will do right. Do NOT continue this!!

 

[JimiThing]

Ok. Thanks for the replies.

So if i got it right, there is nothing wrong with continuing this cycle at this dosage (40mg). Only wrong with this is I wont get the result I would if I would stick to the beginner cycle, plain test that is. Im thinking about shortening the cycle to 6 weeks in total and then doing a mild pct (nolva/clomid combo sounds ok right?) for 2-3 weeks. Then Ill wait at least 2 months and consider running the beginner cycle.
How does that sound?

Fucking horrible, read my post above!

 

[oldmusclemike]

What are your stats.
Age
wt
ht
BF%
and some history

 

[halfwit]

Ok. Thanks for the replies.

So if i got it right, there is nothing wrong with continuing this cycle at this dosage (40mg). Only wrong with this is I wont get the result I would if I would stick to the beginner cycle, plain test that is. Im thinking about shortening the cycle to 6 weeks in total and then doing a mild pct (nolva/clomid combo sounds ok right?) for 2-3 weeks. Then Ill wait at least 2 months and consider running the beginner cycle.
How does that sound?

Jimi called this, but I want to explain something to you.

You're taking a risk right now with PERMANENTLY shutting off your ability to produce testosterone naturally for really lackluster rewards. The longer you're on, the greater the risk.

Think about that for a moment please. No, I'm not bullshitting you, nor am I against the responsible use of AAS. Besides, how old are you? (Mike's questions)

 

[rikardo82]

You should probably stop and PCT if you really are serious about doing a real and safe cycle.
At week 4 even if you plugged in the Test now it would take weeks to get going to add anything to this cycle.

Poor planning but there is another cycle down the road to do better.

he could just add now test prop it kick in fast and just continue what's the problem with it...?

 

[LeoNtin]

Ok. You guys have my full attention right now. Honestly you got me pretty scared.

About stats. 30 years old. 91kgs this morning. Body fat about 10%.
Lifting history of many years with some short pauses. Still did lots of bodyweight during those pauses.

Ok. Best thing i can do is to stop var completely. 22nd day today. Week 1 was 20mg ed so i guess im ok. Dont have pct stuff on hand as source swore i dont need any.
This is turning into a nightmare...

Stopping and see how it goes. Any other suggestions?

 

[oldmusclemike]

he could just add now test prop it kick in fast and just continue what's the problem with it...?

Not that simple Not enough time working in conjunction with each other and for the synthesis to begin without a lag. IMOP

Even though no sense in discussing the techs when the best and correct thing to do for a proper cycle is to stop, PCT , back to the drawing board and begin it correctly for a good new cycle.

Gotta ask, what was the ultimate goal of any cycle.

 

[LeoNtin]

Gotta ask, what was the ultimate goal of any cycle.

I didnt want much. I just wanted to add a few pounds, some strength and most of all, start SLOW and SAFE. The person that convinced me said this was the easiest and safest thing to go. Looks like i was informed wrong. Back to the drawing board it is.