Lab work done

[iBuild11]

Received lab test results today looking for some answers....

Iron 208 45-160
Cholesterol 141 <200
HDL CHOLE DIRECT 37 >40
HGB 17.2 12.3-17
FERRITIN 210 22-322
Test 398.7 249-836
Free test 10.16 8.8-27
Lh 2.1 1.7-8.6
Fsh 2.7 1.5-12.4
Folic acid <24 <5.38
Shgb 25 10-57
Estro and dht are not in yet
Dhea sulfate 587 normal for my age is 125-619

 

[iBuild11]

I have been off cycle for close to 9 months now and expected to see a better test result I am 22 yrs old and have ran multiple cycles in the past...

 

[coltmc45]

Wow for a NORMAL 22 yr old your test is low. LH and FSH are low. Doesn't look like you recovered from your last cycle. What was your post cycle therapy (pct)? Det, user, mike, or zeek might be able to answer some questions for you but I'll say this and I hope alot of new and younger guys read this thread... Numbers like these are why we tell people don't do steroids til you're 25 and your natty numbers drop. No reason to when you still have high levels of t. This is what can happen (test at 397 at 22 years old) when you fuck with your system at a young age. No disrespect towards you at all OP but we see a ton of 18-22 year olds who "have their diet and training spot on and can't break 180lbs at 6'2 and have reached their genetic potential." This is why we tell people to wait, among other consequences.

What's your cycle history/age you started/height/weight.

 

[bigherm2121]

Damn what were your numbers before and during? Were you already low? Your def low now for bein 22. What was your pct?

 

[iBuild11]

I agree that I shouldn't have started at a young age, unfortunately I've already jumped off that bridge. First cycle was at about 18... If I could go back I would have changed how I approached this

Current stats
6'2''
196lbs

I've done 4 cycles in the past most recent ending in August

Pct this time around was...
Hcg 500iu Ed for 10 days
Followed by 4 days off
Nolvadex 20mg Ed for 6 weeks
Torem 60 mg Ed for 6 weeks
Also ran aromasin at 12.5 until mid November

I would also like to add that I feel fine, I have been hitting the gym hard, over the last month I have gotten stronger and gained a few pounds...

 

[iBuild11]

Damn what were your numbers before and during? Were you already low? Your def low now for bein 22. What was your pct?

Unfortunately i was never tested prior so do not know if I was low pct was outlined above

 

[bigherm2121]

Ok well ya what's done is done. How's your libido? I mean your pct isn't bad. So I'm guessing you don't have before bloods?

 

[bigherm2121]

Oh ok. Ya i guess its hard to tell if it was cuz of a cycle that you did or you already had low test. No way to show it cuz of bloods. I would say its prob because you started cycling at 18 and you just kept damaging yourself. I hope some young 18 year olds check this thread oit and this is prof what can happen. Sucks to say that bud but that's why us guys fight and fight with these young kids to wait a few years. It works sometimes. I wish it worked more though.

 

[crazyfmike]

Oh ok. Ya i guess its hard to tell if it was cuz of a cycle that you did or you already had low test. No way to show it cuz of bloods. I would say its prob because you started cycling at 18 and you just kept damaging yourself. I hope some young 18 year olds check this thread oit and this is prof what can happen. Sucks to say that bud but that's why us guys fight and fight with these young kids to wait a few years. It works sometimes. I wish it worked more though.

X's 2

 

[iBuild11]

Ok well ya what's done is done. How's your libido? I mean your post cycle therapy (pct) isn't bad. So I'm guessing you don't have before bloods?

Libido is great can't see a girl on the side of the street without picturing her naked haha

Could also have something to do with these pro solution pills a friend of mine gave me a while back haha

 

[iBuild11]

Oh ok. Ya i guess its hard to tell if it was cuz of a cycle that you did or you already had low test. No way to show it cuz of bloods. I would say its prob because you started cycling at 18 and you just kept damaging yourself. I hope some young 18 year olds check this thread oit and this is prof what can happen. Sucks to say that bud but that's why us guys fight and fight with these young kids to wait a few years. It works sometimes. I wish it worked more though.

Yeah would have been nice to discover this board at a younger age and not just listen to the big guy at the gym pushing his product

 

[Spongy]

well, as has been stated, what's done is done. There are a few approaches you can take, but it all depends on how you feel. So, that being said... how do you feel?

 

[iBuild11]

well, as has been stated, what's done is done. There are a few approaches you can take, but it all depends on how you feel. So, that being said... how do you feel?

Like I stated above I feel fine maybe not as good as I do on cycle but definitely an 8 out of 10

 

[bigherm2121]

Yeah would have been nice to discover this board at a younger age and not just listen to the big guy at the gym pushing his product

I feel ya bro!!! Stick around and learn. There is ways around things in this game and the guys on these boards will teach ya everything they know. Don't be one of those guys that posts one time cuz they are having issues. Stay around there information to be learned

 

[iBuild11]

Also curious as to how high dhea levels correlate to low test

 

[iBuild11]

I feel ya bro!!! Stick around and learn. There is ways around things in this game and the guys on these boards will teach ya everything they know. Don't be one of those guys that posts one time cuz they are having issues. Stay around there information to be learned

I've been browsing the board for quite some time and believe I know the ins and outs for the most part... When I was younger I was just a tad bit to ignorant to listen to what I was reading and learning

 

[Spongy]

honestly, if you feel fine than i woulnd't sweat it too hard right now. There are a lot of reasons you can have low test for any given test, doesn't mean you always have low test. However, you may want to consider a re-start of sorts. Try taking Clomid at 50mg a day for 4-6 weeks, then retest. Hopefully that will get your levels up.

 

[bigherm2121]

Dehydroepiandrosterone, or DHEA is a hormone made by your body and controlled by your adrenal gland. Both female sex hormones, such as estrogen, and male sex hormones, such as testosterone, depend of your body's production of DHEA -- it's a precursor to all sex hormones.

 

[iBuild11]

honestly, if you feel fine than i woulnd't sweat it too hard right now. There are a lot of reasons you can have low test for any given test, doesn't mean you always have low test. However, you may want to consider a re-start of sorts. Try taking Clomid at 50mg a day for 4-6 weeks, then retest. Hopefully that will get your levels up.

Since I have somewhat recovered would time alone be enough to bring levels up?

 

[iBuild11]

Dehydroepiandrosterone, or DHEA is a hormone made by your body and controlled by your adrenal gland. Both female sex hormones, such as estrogen, and male sex hormones, such as testosterone, depend of your body's production of DHEA -- it's a precursor to all sex hormones.

So with that being said could one assume that the body is using the dhea for something other then test production causing low levels?