I was thinking that. But im trying to find a legal way to do things. Lol. I know otc is nothing compared to that of test, but i took an hdrol and daa cycle and my labido was crazy high! No joke. I wasnt sure if it was the hdrol or the daa due to reaearch leading me to believe that both raise libido ( although everyone says otherwise ) but i keep reading and T-force seems to look amazing. Many people have told me about recourse as well and i wouldnt mind going with daa again for my next cycle of msten and stano. I really want my libido up, so any otc that may have worked for anyone and maybe even a product that you users swear by would be awesome