last jab of test e, opinions

[squats houses]

im after finishing a 16 weeker of 500mg pw of tese e,
how long after your last jab of test e do you lads start to feel shut down,and loss of strenght and gains?
i done my last jab this day last week and i would like to hear off a few experienced lads,
cheers

 

[jj0088]

any PCT plans at all

 

[squats houses]

any PCT plans at all

ye i have nolvadex and clomid for pct i will be starting that next week and i have been taking Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 250ius twice a week since week 8 and i was taking arimidex 0.5mg twice a week because i was getting bloated,

i just want to know how long it will take befor i notice the strenght to fade because i stil feel stronger than ever when i train, and i havnt doen a jab in a week,

i have still taking my arimidex this week even tho i havnt done any jabs, another question is how long should i keep taking the arimidex for?

 

[Hockeyplaya18]

Take ADEX through end of PCT

 

[squats houses]

cheers for the response,
i havnt had my main question answered,
anybody know how long it takes after my last jab that i see my strenght fade?

 

[essays]

Take ADEX through end of post cycle therapy (pct)

I wouldn't. Good way to destroy all the remaining estrogen in your system and kill your gains, your joints and your libido.

Also, isn't your "first cycle" thread going on in the "my steroid cycle" forum right now? Please don't give advice if you have no experience.

Squats, to answer your question, it's different for everyone. I don't tend to feel bad during post cycle therapy (pct) at all, but I've never run 16+ weeks either. I usually find the weeks following my last jabs I actually gain a little strength and lean out a little. Some of my strength, intensity and endurance begins to fade back to normal levels during post cycle therapy (pct), but if you're doing your HCG/post cycle therapy (pct) properly you shouldn't feel like you're in a slump. That's the whole idea.

 

[BigPal]

Read the "more failed PCTs" by cashout.

Lots of good info there.

 

[squats houses]

I wouldn't. Good way to destroy all the remaining estrogen in your system and kill your gains, your joints and your libido.

Also, isn't your "first cycle" thread going on in the "my steroid cycle" forum right now? Please don't give advice if you have no experience.

Squats, to answer your question, it's different for everyone. I don't tend to feel bad during PCT at all, but I've never run 16+ weeks either. I usually find the weeks following my last jabs I actually gain a little strength and lean out a little. Some of my strength, intensity and endurance begins to fade back to normal levels during post cycle therapy (pct), but if you're doing your HCG/PCT properly you shouldn't feel like you're in a slump. That's the whole idea.

thanks for the knowledge essays
any idea when i should stop my arimidex?
iv noticed my libido suffering the last week,
my joints are a bit sore but im not sure if the sore joints are just old injuries because i have got some recurring injuries in my elbos and shoulders,
could my libido suffering and possibly my sore joints be because i am stil taking the same dose of arimidex?

 

[ErectusMaximus]

Sup Squats,

First of all i agree with Essays about the strength issues. If you can stay motivated mentally, eat well, and sleep enough, training should not take a big hit at all. You always have some days your tired or say you did shoulders hard two days ago and its affecting your benchpress today. Overall though you can and should keep making gains. Don't worry about it, just lift.

IMO I would take arimidex throughout post cycle therapy (pct). This works for me but obviously not for Essays. I am not looking to discredit Essays nor am I looking to agree with Playa18, but I am just saying there are benefits to running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) throughout post cycle therapy (pct). The important thing is to drop the dosage if you wanted to keep on it. If your were on .5 EoD, cut it in 1/2.

The idea here is that the male body does indeed monitor estrogen levels. If levels are low a male makes testosterone that then aromatizes into estro to get the level up. So you see in theory how keeping estro low throughout post cycle therapy (pct) could indeed promote natural test production, low estro makes a man call for test. I beleive this is why arimidex and aromasin increase test slightly even though they are used as AI.

 

[Hockeyplaya18]

I wouldn't. Good way to destroy all the remaining estrogen in your system and kill your gains, your joints and your libido.

Also, isn't your "first cycle" thread going on in the "my steroid cycle" forum right now? Please don't give advice if you have no experience.

Just going off of what I have been told multiple times by credible guys on here. I plan on running my Aromatase inhibitor (AI) throughout, and due to this thread I have learned I should taper it off towards the end of post cycle therapy (pct). MY BAD