"Lean mass / cutting"

[smartbuy1988]

STATS:
Age: 26y
H&W: 190 cm, 105 kg (6 feet 3 inches, 230 lbs)
training: 6 years
BodyFat: 10-11 %

CYCLE HISTORY:
First cycle: test enanthate 1-10 (500 mg / week)
Second cycle: test enanthate 1-12 (600 mg / week)
Third cycle: test prop 1-8 (135 mg EOD), anavar 1-8 (60-100 mg ED)
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I have these stuff/gear:

- 14 glass ampoules ---> TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE (250 mg / 1 amp.)
- 40 ml ---> EQ/BOLDENONE (250 mg / 1 ml)
- 40 ml ---> TESTOSTERONE PROPIONATE (100 mg / 1ml)
- 30 ml ---> TRENBOLONE ACETATE (100 mg / 1 ml)
- 30 ml ---> MASTERONE PROPIONATE (100 mg / 1 ml)
- 350-400 tablets ---> ANAVAR (10 mg)


MY GOALS: lean muscle mass / little cutting (I do not need 20 lbs+ mass (muscle&water&fat), maybe 10-12 lbs (this is maximum) and i want to lower % BF (dropping from 10-11 % BF to 7-8 %).

DIET: 350-400g PROTEINS, 100-150g CARBS around a training and 100g of healthy FAT.
Weight TRAINING: 5-6x / week
CARDIO: 3-4 times per week (25-45 minutes)
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Does anyone have any suggestions for a "composite" cycle ?? (sorry, i don't speak good english)...

Cycle (plans): november 2014

My option #1 ("hardcore" cycle)

1-3 -> TESTOSTERONE PROPIONATE: 75 mg EOD
1-8 -> TRENBOLONE ACETATE: 100 mg / EOD
1-14 -> TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE: 250 mg / WEEK
1-14 -> EQ/BOLDENONE: 700 mg / WEEK
10-16 -> MASTERONE PROPIONATE: 100 mg / EOD
10-16 -> ANAVAR: 60 mg / ED
14-16 -> TESTOSTERONE PROPIONATE: 75 mg / EOD


HCG for the last 6 weeks: 500 iu / 2x week
PCT (4-5 weeks)
nolva (40/20 mg) & clomid (100/50 mg)
AI on hand...

or. option #2 (divided into two cycle)...


#1
1-10 -> TESTOSTERONE PROPIONATE: 100 mg / EOD
1-8 -> TRENBOLONE ACETATE: 100 mg / EOD
1-8 -> MASTERONE PROPIONATE: 100 mg / EOD


#2
1-15 -> TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE: 250 mg / WEEK
1-14 -> EQ/BOLDEONE: 700 mg / WEEK
12-17 -> ANAVAR: 80 mg / ED


My problem is that I would like use in one cycle (test, tren, eq, mast), but no tren E, mast E (i have only short esters)...


Any opinion ?

 

[smartbuy1988]

Anyone ?

 

[snowpatrol123]

At your size, 100mg EOD of tren is barely worth pinning IMO...if you can add some tren E to bring the weekly total into the 500-700mg range you could combine the two cycles, but you will be pin-cushion mode for sure

Cutting doesn't need to be complicated...
1. Diet
2. Training
3. Cardio (moderate)
4. AAS support, something like 500mg test/wk and 700mg tren/wk (I would do 150mg test-e EOD and 200mg tren-A EOD)

Just my $.02

 

[China_Wall]

u want to lower bf%, but gain bodyweight.... and do this over 16 weeks?

sorry bro, do more research... you either cut or you grow... not both... take a more effective, efficient approach to achieve results

and 7%??? come on... that's nearly what guys are on stage, and they only achieve that for a few days at a time... getting to that bf% is hell, and is NOT comfortable

you would be much better off trying to gain some mass while maintaining the bf% you are at

 

[3J]

actually you can do both.. especially with the use of gear.. and decent genetics... its called recomping.. and though its a slower process than bulking to gain muscle it does work

 

[smartbuy1988]

China_wall, heheh, ok. you don't have quite right...

In my last cycle - "easy" cylce (prop 135 mg/EOD, 60-100 mg var), i droped bf and gain bw (4 lbs).
350-400 g proteins, 100g carbs around training and 100 g healthy fatt - very, very clean food and no OFF meals (2 months)!

 

[Matt0071]

Nice transformation bro
Test and tren and a good diet will get u some mean lean gains bro

 

[Matt0071]

Gained around 15 pounds off a low dose of test 200mg/week, and running my tren at 150mg eod in a coarse of 8 weeks cycling my carbs, sitting at 10% bf right now and gunnig to get down to 8% in the next few weeks hopefully, like china said its tough as nails getting into single digits

 

[carverelli]

Gained around 15 pounds off a low dose of test 200mg/week, and running my tren at 150mg eod in a coarse of 8 weeks cycling my carbs, sitting at 10% bf right now and gunnig to get down to 8% in the next few weeks hopefully, like china said its tough as nails getting into single digits

i know yur not a big fan of cardio Matt, but me I think its essential to get under 12% bf. especially to get under 10%

 

[China_Wall]

China_wall, heheh, ok. you don't have quite right...

In my last cycle - "easy" cylce (prop 135 mg/EOD, 60-100 mg var), i droped bf and gain bw (4 lbs).
350-400 g proteins, 100g carbs around training and 100 g healthy fatt - very, very clean food and no OFF meals (2 months)!

PICS:

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been doing this pretty full-on for nearly 20 years... been up near 300 at 5'10 and in decent condition... now stay at a fairly lean 240-245

so, yeah... what do I know... guess I don't have it quite right hahaha

 

[smartbuy1988]

China Wall, 5`10 & 300 uff, this is crazy!


My plan is:

1-4 testosterone propionate 100 mg / EOD
1-16 testosterone depo galenika (test E) 250 mg / WEEK
1-16 eq/boldenone 625 mg / WEEK
9-16 masterone propionate 100 mg / EOD /// 50 mg / ED
9-16 trenbolone acetate 100 mg / EOD /// 50 mg / ED
13-18 anavar 80 mg / ED


1-10 weeks: 300 g proteins, 250 g carbs (around a training and first post workout meal), 100 g healthy fatt. Training: 5-6x / week, cardio 2x per week.
11-18 weeks: 350-400 g proteins, 50-100g carbs (before and after training), 100 g healthy fatt. Training: 5-6x / week, cardio: 4-5x per week.


My ("long term") goals: lean muscle mass / little cutting - I do not need 25 lbs+ mass (muscle&water&fat), maybe 10 lbs (maximum 15 lbs) and i want to lower % BF (2 %). Athletic/fitness body: 235-240 lbs (6 feet 3 inches) with good shape....