Long cycles

[VigoBien]

What is truly the risk of running a 20-30 week test cycle? I hear a lot of bodybuilders just keep running w/o ever taking a break. A friend of mine who knows a few also said they'll go six months on with a one month break w/o PCT (which I dont quite get).

Also if you're doing a 15 week cycle could you take a one month break (do clomid for the month) and go back on for another 12 weeks?

 

[Conrad415]

The vast majority of bodybuilder never do come off cycle. Many bodybuilder cruise and blast with cycles.

 

[KingCrane]

time on time off. If the cycle is 15 weeks, time off 15 weeks after pct.

 

[howdyduty05]

I would truely like to know more. So why cant first cycles be longer than 12-16 weeks?? or can they???

 

[DADAWG]

I would truely like to know more. So why cant first cycles be longer than 12-16 weeks?? or can they???

they can be longer but you should make tremendous gains on a 1st cycle that long unless you living depends on it why push your luck.

 

[Edmonton_grown]

I would truely like to know more. So why cant first cycles be longer than 12-16 weeks?? or can they???

a first cycle of simple Test only will yeild amazing gains. The gains tend to taper off during the 11-12 week mark so why bother continuing to cycle to get fewer gains and keep your body shutdown for a longer period making recovery more difficult. Easier to run a shorter 10-12 week, then your time off will lso be shorter and you can get back on....

to the OP, a lot of guys run long cycles because they have the experience to see how their body is reacting at each phase of their cycle. Bloodwork is really important to see how your body is taking to a longer cycle. You should also incorporate Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) in there to keep your boys functioning.

 

[barrysanders]

they can be longer but you should make tremendous gains on a 1st cycle that long unless you living depends on it why push your luck.

Are you saying that your taking a chance of dieing if you do a longer cycle??? Just trying to clerify???

 

[DADAWG]

Are you saying that your taking a chance of dieing if you do a longer cycle??? Just trying to clerify???

the longer the cycle is the bigger chance that you will have trouble rec overing your natural hpta [ make your own test ] .

 

[barrysanders]

the longer the cycle is the bigger chance that you will have trouble rec overing your natural hpta [ make your own test ] .

Dawg-Gotcha that makes perfect sense. I thought that is what you were getting at, but I didn't know if you knew something else that I didn't that you were trying to portray. Thanks again for clerifying.

 

[VigoBien]

I understand the time on = time off rule. So is there a point to even take a month off in between 2 15 wk cycles?

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

if your only gonna take a month off after a 3 month cycle, what is the point of coming off?

 

[DADAWG]

if your only gonna take a month off after a 3 month cycle, what is the point of coming off?

i agree , just cruise on a testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) dose of test.
the problem with this is 99% of the people here dont need to cycle that often.

 

[R1rider]

^^ x2

 

[VigoBien]

Are there studies done on year long users? I'm curious to see how unlikely it is for your natty levels to restore. If the biggest risk is just a permanent shutdown and that is a very low prob risk, I don't understand why people don't stay on for longer than 18 wks. I could understand some may want to do just one cycle but I find that person rare

 

[moka989]

old school guys used to cycle very toxic drugs such as dbol and primo or test for 6 even 9 months or longer without proper PCT, this is before we knew the risks or had done any research, many people never recovered and a few came out acting in the movie The Expendables. So in today's gym, we like to moderate and handle our cycles in dosages and over a calender that yields the best results, costs and minimal results. Read up on some body building history, its actually pretty interesting, things where done a lot different over the last 40 years.

Some people even choose to shutdown perm but the benefits are not there for the normal human being.

On a side note anyone going to see Jay Cutler on tour this year? hes coming up my way in august 2011 i am definitely going

 

[VigoBien]

is test considered a toxic drug though, I mean even in the dosages a typical user would take it in?

 

[THAISEXGIRLS]

I am really interested in this too because I have been cycling for about 4 months now.....pretty long and I will continue for another 3 weeks.........then I will wait 3 weeks then do clomid 100 mg per day for 30 days......I really hope that is enough clomid to get me going again......I question the quality of some of the steroids I have done here in Thailand and I feel some of the testosterone I injected was bunk so I can't really say for sure how much REAL test I have done......but still....pretty long cycle.....I am concerned about recovery when I go home.

 

[Teutonic]

I m on trt.. which is a low dose cycle, if you will..
The longer you shut yourself down the harder the come back i m o...and not just the natty test..but the high and mighty feeling that come s with it mentally...proper pct will only bring you back to natty level s..like 5 6 700 test on a 1000 scale...at 125 a week I was over 1000. At 250 a week im over 1300..so it ll be interestng to see how you feel natural...I fkn hate it..who want s to be normal.? Not I..

 

[RA64]

I too am on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT), screw the normal feeling.