Looking to mainly get cut, input please

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[557mustang]

Why are there so many crazy intro's on this thread? But anyway, for those wanting to cut, see 3j in the diet section. The guy really knows his stuff...

 

[JoosedUp]

Whats up everyone I'm a NooB to steroids however I have been training since I was 13 and I am now 22. I weigh in at 189 and I'm 5'9. I am already in some pretty good shape however I feel I'm too bulky and would like some more definition so I've been looking to cut up and at the same time gain some strength.

As for the cutting, I have decided to go with winstrol. (injections, 50mg, 6 - 8 weeks)

What amount of test would you guys reccomend (like I said, don't want to get bulky but I've heard its a nice product to stack with winny) and what post cycle would be most ideal?

I've done the P6 black before and achieved great results and took some normal over the counter post cycle therapy and had great results. I'm just looking for a well defined build this time around cause the P6 black bulked me up like crazy (185 -> 205)

Any input would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

everybody always takes a new posters goals and says steroids do nothing, it's food. so why does anybody on this board take steroids? to AID the diet. so shut up, all.

winstrol WILL get you cut, WITH diet. it's not as though Winstrol (winny) will make no difference.

my first cycle was Winstrol (winny), i was fairly younger then you (18 years old)... like everybody, i ignored the "you're too young" folk. 22 years old isn't too young, you'll be fine.

i don't know about injectable, i took pill form Winstrol (winny) at around 60 mg's a day. for your test i'd say about 500mg's a week for a first time cycle.

If you diet with top effort and keep a good 25-45 minutes of cardio a day range you'll get big and lean.

 

[Foby]

Man if Winstrol magically made you cut, then why the hell isn't everyone on it every cycle including bulks.

Fucking logic please.

 

[RJ]

everybody always takes a new posters goals and says steroids do nothing, it's food. so why does anybody on this board take steroids? to AID the diet. so shut up, all.

winstrol WILL get you cut, WITH diet. it's not as though Winstrol (winny) will make no difference.

my first cycle was Winstrol (winny), i was fairly younger then you (18 years old)... like everybody, i ignored the "you're too young" folk. 22 years old isn't too young, you'll be fine.

i don't know about injectable, i took pill form Winstrol (winny) at around 60 mg's a day. for your test i'd say about 500mg's a week for a first time cycle.

If you diet with top effort and keep a good 25-45 minutes of cardio a day range you'll get big and lean.

you are by far this weeks biggest moron.

winny doesn't make you cut you dumbass. No drugs make you cut. Diet makes you cut. Cardio makes you cut. Not the drugs. saying Winstrol (winny) makes you cut WITH diet is only a true statement because of the word DIET. The Winstrol (winny) part is irrelevant. You'd be the same saying mowing the lawn WITH diet will make you cut.

The logic of "why would anyone use steroids if it was all diet and training" is retarded also.

When we say that what we mean is that without a solid understanding of those two things, you will never make solid gains and be able to keep them, because you are relying on the drugs for said gains and not the diet and training. Thats why you and all your punk ass friends yo-yo up and down so much in between cycles. If you knew how to eat to grow, and train to grow, and rest to grow the right way, you wouldn't be makinig these jackass claims that Winstrol (winny) makes you cut.

Only douchebags who wear fanny packs and workout with Oakley sunglasses while talking on their blue tooth ear piece say Winstrol (winny) makes you cut.

Like Det said, you only think you lost BF because it dried your skinny ass out.

 

[ECKSRATED]

you are by far this weeks biggest moron.

winny doesn't make you cut you dumbass. No drugs make you cut. Diet makes you cut. Cardio makes you cut. Not the drugs. saying Winstrol (winny) makes you cut WITH diet is only a true statement because of the word DIET. The Winstrol (winny) part is irrelevant. You'd be the same saying mowing the lawn WITH diet will make you cut.

The logic of "why would anyone use steroids if it was all diet and training" is retarded also.

When we say that what we mean is that without a solid understanding of those two things, you will never make solid gains and be able to keep them, because you are relying on the drugs for said gains and not the diet and training. Thats why you and all your punk ass friends yo-yo up and down so much in between cycles. If you knew how to eat to grow, and train to grow, and rest to grow the right way, you wouldn't be makinig these jackass claims that Winstrol (winny) makes you cut.

Only douchebags who wear fanny packs and workout with Oakley sunglasses while talking on their blue tooth ear piece say Winstrol (winny) makes you cut.

Like Det said, you only think you lost BF because it dried your skinny ass out.

Damn it! I just bought new oakleys and a nice red and black fanny pack. I think I kept the receipts.

 

[juced_porkchop]

dont use steroid you DONOT have the knowladge to use them and steroids dont "make you cut" diet does. steroids will help keep om muscle then not eating much "cutting" but you shoudl have ALOT of exp with cutting and trainning normally and have many weeks if not years of research before using any steroid.
i would rec Need2slin to help with your cutting.
and lots of green tea and whey protien (need2whey)

 

[juced_porkchop]

you are by far this weeks biggest moron.

winny doesn't make you cut you dumbass. No drugs make you cut. Diet makes you cut. Cardio makes you cut. Not the drugs. saying Winstrol (winny) makes you cut WITH diet is only a true statement because of the word DIET. The Winstrol (winny) part is irrelevant. You'd be the same saying mowing the lawn WITH diet will make you cut.

The logic of "why would anyone use steroids if it was all diet and training" is retarded also.

When we say that what we mean is that without a solid understanding of those two things, you will never make solid gains and be able to keep them, because you are relying on the drugs for said gains and not the diet and training. Thats why you and all your punk ass friends yo-yo up and down so much in between cycles. If you knew how to eat to grow, and train to grow, and rest to grow the right way, you wouldn't be makinig these jackass claims that Winstrol (winny) makes you cut.

Only douchebags who wear fanny packs and workout with Oakley sunglasses while talking on their blue tooth ear piece say Winstrol (winny) makes you cut.

Like Det said, you only think you lost BF because it dried your skinny ass out.

a fuking men!

 

[07Lane40]

lol

before you go calling someone an idiot, make sure your punctuation is CoRrEcT!

oh the irony in this post... doesn't the saying go "he who lives in a glass house should not throw stones"?



haha... just playing