Loss of Sensitivity/Low Libido on Test E?

Shred2Live

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I've read about loss of sexual sensitivity being a possible side effect of Deca, but I'm on Test E, 500mg/week...first cycle. First four weeks I felt g2g 24/7, now it's week 6 and sex drive is low and very hard to get to orgasm. I've read here that low libido could be a symptom of both too high OR too low estrogen. In addition to 500iu HCG/ week I'm taking 12.5mg liquid exemestane ED. I'm worried that either I've killed 100% of my estro or else the heat during shipping ruined my liquid exemestane. Anybody else have this happen? Huge bummer!
 
There are a lot of potential culprits here.

1) If your test E is UGL, it could be anything. Deca, EQ etc.

2) As you surmised, E2 could be either excessive, or non existant. Obviously, blood work would help.

3) It could be something psychological. Relationship troubles, etc.

If I were you, I would start by dropping the HCG, and either lowering the dose (or eliminating) of exemestane from your current regimen. If either compound is the guilty party, it will be obvious. If not, it's little or no trouble to add them back in. Good luck.

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The only way to find out is bloodwork bro. Check out the cheap bloodwork sticky by blondie. Then you will find out A) if your test is legit B) if your e2 is high C) if your e2 is low. I tend to think this has to do with either high or low e2 but you will only know by getting bloodwork. Signs of low E2 would be achy joints, loss of libido, ED, deppression, etc. Are you feeling any of these symptoms? It could be that your test is bunk or underdosed and you have driven your e2 way too low or you could be sensitive to aromasin like I am and that caused it to drive it too low. On the other end your aromasin could be bunk or you may just need to increase the dose. Either way, get bloodwork. Good luck.
 
Thanks guys. The Test-E is z-line, so should be okay, I assume. The Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) was provided by the same supplier, but was obviously made in China. In fact, the label is in Chinese characters and doesn't say Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) or Pregnyl anywhere on it. In addition, I actually only started the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) the fifth week, the same week the ED, loss of sensitivity/libido showed up. Perhaps we have found the culprit? The liquid exemestane is from extreme peptides. I will stop the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for now, but keep up the Aromasin and see what happens. Blood work is a little tricky because I live in Taiwan, but I think I know a place I can get it done.

I hope I can figure this out. I'd been REALLY ENJOYING this first cycle until now....
 
Yeah bloodworks the only way to truely know what's going on. If you can't get it, drop the aromasin for a week and see if it helps. If it doesn't then I'd say your estro is too high and you should bump it up to 25mg ed. All your supplier's are g2g so I doubt your gear is bunk. I actually just went thru this in pct and was ready to jump off a fucking building cuz my estro was so low. I dropped the aromasin and BOOM! Back to normal.
 
So I found a lab ten minutes walking from my office, does bloods for $75, same-day results by email. Not bad! Here's what I got:

FSH: 1.6 mIU/mL
LH: .3 mIU/mL
E2: 18.7 pg/mL
Test: 1896 ng/dL

So I guess 12.5 mg Liquid Exemestane ED that I've been taking was the right dose, correct? This is week 6 of my first 12 week Test-E 500mg/week cycle. I dropped the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) this week (last week was my first week of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) @ 250iu, twice a week). I think I might be starting to feel normal again, but I haven't seen my girlfriend in a couple days, so can't be 100% sure. She and I have a date tomorrow...I'll let y'all know.

Anyway, I guess the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) was the culprit, then. It came from Z, all Chinese characters. Anybody else using it? I'm not clear how to attach the pic.

Thanks.
 
Well, I've confirmed that the Chinese does say "Injectable HCG," so that's good news. I'm still wondering if anybody else has used this brand of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and or has heard of anybody having negative side effects from Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) use...
 
Shred2Live said:
So I found a lab ten minutes walking from my office, does bloods for $75, same-day results by email. Not bad! Here's what I got:

FSH: 1.6 mIU/mL
LH: .3 mIU/mL
E2: 18.7 pg/mL
Test: 1896 ng/dL

So I guess 12.5 mg Liquid Exemestane ED that I've been taking was the right dose, correct? This is week 6 of my first 12 week Test-E 500mg/week cycle. I dropped the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) this week (last week was my first week of Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) @ 250iu, twice a week). I think I might be starting to feel normal again, but I haven't seen my girlfriend in a couple days, so can't be 100% sure. She and I have a date tomorrow...I'll let y'all know.

Anyway, I guess the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) was the culprit, then. It came from Z, all Chinese characters. Anybody else using it? I'm not clear how to attach the pic.

Thanks.
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18.7 is too low for e2. I believe this is the cause, not the HCG. I don't see why the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) would cause this. I would drop the aromasin for a week and see how you feel. If it gets better you may not need it or you could go back to 6.25 a day which should put you in a good place. Dropping the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) will cause you're e2 to drop even more because there will not be the estro conversion from that too. Z is g2g. Your total test looks low to me though for week 6 of 500mg a week.
 
18 is pretty low for estro. Here's the thing with test and estro, they are dependent in the individual. I have seen guys have estro at 68 and get gyno, lose libido, etc because it was too high for that person but seen another who's estro was 1100 and had no symptoms at all. The point is it's dependent on how you respond. I consider 25/35 a good range for estro but I think this is a case of low estro for you. I would continue the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and stop the aromisin.

Each Aromatase inhibitor (AI) can effect everyone different as well and need to be adjusted as a cycle goes on. For some, adex works better then aromisin and for others the opposite.

Continue the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and stop the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) for now. It's suggested in a cycle to maintain estro and sides but we can't always control all of them. I didn't use an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) at the middle to end of last cycle because I didn't need it and I normally get gyno instantly but for some reason I no longer needed it. After you drop the Aromatase inhibitor (AI) it can take one to two weeks to start feeling better because the aromisin is built up in your system but luckily the half life is only 24 hours.

Just don't start to worry because many guys freak out if libido drops then it becomes more mental then physical and they are so worried about maintaining erection that they get anxiety and aren't focused on the act causing ED.

It's good to keep some Viagra or cialis around just in case libido gets a little off until you can fix the problem but if you have zero libido Viagra won't help.

It appears that 18 is too low for you so should be a simple fix. Good luck.
 
Meathead, User, I REALLY appreciate your responses. Thank you. I'll drop the aromasin, then, and see what happens.

I really want to make this work. Other than this unfortunate side-effect, I am LOVING the results, both in the gym and the mirror.
 
I took three days off the Exemestane and sure enough, I was back to random boners in the boardroom. So I decided to try adding it back in at a lower dose, 6.25mg/ED. Three days later, it was all mushy again, and I was ambivalent about my gf's phenomenal rack. WTF??!! Dropped the Aromasin again, and here I am two days later, NO PROBLEM with ED -- hard as granite, and can't keep my hands off my girl.

So evidently I'm a guy that needs a significant amount of estrogen... Okay, but isn't that stuff wreaking havoc in other ways inside me? Should I start running Adex? More importantly, what do I do about post cycle therapy (pct)? I'm about to start week 8 of my first 12 week Test E 500mg/week cycle -- PCT's 7 weeks away. Running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in PCT really makes sense to me, especially a suicidal inhibitor. I'd appreciate any advice about what to do about estrogen control on cycle and in PCT based on this information. I'll get bloods done again in another couple of weeks before I end the cycle. Thoughts?
 
Shred2Live said:
I took three days off the Exemestane and sure enough, I was back to random boners in the boardroom. So I decided to try adding it back in at a lower dose, 6.25mg/ED. Three days later, it was all mushy again, and I was ambivalent about my gf's phenomenal rack. WTF??!! Dropped the Aromasin again, and here I am two days later, NO PROBLEM with ED -- hard as granite, and can't keep my hands off my girl.

So evidently I'm a guy that needs a significant amount of estrogen... Okay, but isn't that stuff wreaking havoc in other ways inside me? Should I start running Adex? More importantly, what do I do about post cycle therapy (pct)? I'm about to start week 8 of my first 12 week Test E 500mg/week cycle -- PCT's 7 weeks away. Running an Aromatase inhibitor (AI) in PCT really makes sense to me, especially a suicidal inhibitor. I'd appreciate any advice about what to do about estrogen control on cycle and in PCT based on this information. I'll get bloods done again in another couple of weeks before I end the cycle. Thoughts?
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dont run adex . this shit aint that hard run just enough aromasin OR arimidex to keep bloat reasonable and not to get gyno and dont run a mg more than that.
tyhe goal is to control estrogen not kill it.
 
Okay, fair enough. So by that principle, if I am comfortable with the amount of bloating I have and don't have any lumps under my nipple, then I don't need to run an Aromatase inhibitor (AI), right? Sorry to sound ignorant, here...it's because I am.
 
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