LOW TEST LEVELS, need help please

[FEEDDMACHINE]

Ok boys, I just got my test results back for my blood work & will be needing your help on how to fix my low test levels.

First of all, I have been having very little or no sex drive at all & currently on my 2nd week of clomid therapy. I also took my Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) before I ran the clomid. I diden't take any nolvadex or arimadex this cycle. My cycle was 11 weeks of PROP/WINNY/EQ AND ONLY 6 WEEKS OF TREN.

TOTAL TESTOSTEERONE: 312 RANGE: 260-1000 NG/DL
LH, SERUM : 0.2 RANGE: 2.0-18.0 MIU/ML
FSH, SERUM : 0.3 RANGE: 1.6-18.1 MIU/ML
ESTRADIOL : 46 (ESTROGEN) RANGE: 21-50 PG/ML

MY QUESTIONS ARE,

1) Is it normal to have a total test of 312, cause Iam only 28 and I think it should be higher?

2) What does LH & FSH stand for & what does it mean when its that low? What can I do to raise these levels?

3) Is 46 kinda high for my estrogen level, even though its in the normal range?

Thank you for any suggestions that you guys can give me.

 

[FEEDDMACHINE]

I know one of the Docs in here can answer my question. BUMPPPPPPP

 

[DADAWG]

feed machine , your allready in the normal range and you just started your second week of clomid , thats not that bad because your levels should increase by the end of post cycle therapy , post cycle drop off is normal but yes it does suck

 

[FEEDDMACHINE]

THX SILVERBACK, YOUR GOOD HELP. J/K I know its been a year for you and your still trying to fix this damn problem. IT SUCKS ASS
My cycle ended couple of weeks ago. Total 11 weeks
How do I raise my LH & FSH??

 

[DTOX]

Looks like you started your post-cycle therapy too early.

Your LH/FSH numbers SUCK ASS.

Get some nolvadex and take in addition to your clomid.

Your balls must be microscopic given those numbers.

Like Silverback said, I wouldn't even think about getting your numbers rechecked for another 2 months.

 

[beezwax]

how long do you have to take nolva post cycle and when should you start the treatment? and how much per day?

 

[FEEDDMACHINE]

DTOX, so I should run nolvadex with the clomid & do I need to run more Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG)? how much nolvadex, 40mg?
Thx for all the help boys

 

[DTOX]

40mg seems high...I'd run 10mg - 20mg/day with the clomid. They hit the receptors differently.

I'll let someone else answer the question on Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG). Personally, I've never understood the point of using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) at all except that it makes your testicals temporarily bigger.

It may sound funny, but you should get some ZMA and take 30mg/day at bedtime on an empty stomach (2+ hrs after last meal). I've read it's not all that great post-cycle, but it's probably better than nothing.

 

[simpllyhuge]

when you lower your estogen you test levles are suppost to come back. You seem to be in the range. Lh and fsh are like the signals for your nuts to produce test.

 

[Johny J]

Yup, another week or 2 of clomid and nolva should have you str8.

But how long did you wait between your cycle ending and your start of post cycle therapy (pct)? I dont know how long you are supposed to wait after your last shot of EQ. I believe it is like 2 weeks.

 

[simpllyhuge]

im not really sure but i think the body sees estogen and testosterone the same, so if estogen is high the body only sees an abundance or hormone and doesnt produce more test but if estrogen is low the body will produce more test and this is the point of taking anti e's besides gyno. Im not 100% sure but that what i understood. I think if u get ur estrogen lower the lh and fsh will go up and produce more test.

 

[Johny J]

im not really sure but i think the body sees estogen and testosterone the same, so if estogen is high the body only sees an abundance or hormone and doesnt produce more test but if estrogen is low the body will produce more test and this is the point of taking anti e's besides gyno. Im not 100% sure but that what i understood. I think if u get ur estrogen lower the lh and fsh will go up and produce more test.

Yup. Men prduce estrogen by aromatizing their natural test. If you body sees lots of estrogen, it says "hey, there must be lots of test that is getting aromitized. BAck off the test production". High estrogen levels will inhibit testicular function.

 

[FEEDDMACHINE]

SO, the idea is to lower my estrogen levels & my LH & FSH will go back up. AM I CORRECT???
SHOULD I TAKE NOLV OR ARIMADEX? Thx guys

 

[Johny J]

add nolva like dtox said.

 

[RippedOne]

A level of 312 is fine. My doctor told me the safe range for your test levels should be anywhere from 300 to 750. After he told me about that he also mentioned my total test was 101(scary I know). And Dtox having low test doesnt mean your balls are small. Trust me I speak from experience before and after HRT.

 

[Dr.X]

here is my speculation:
you were using a long-acting test.
some residual hormonal elevation is still present.
your LH and FSH levels are still rock-bottom.
the test levels indicated are from the juice, not your suppressed nuts.
as the others said, you still need to wait a couple of months and have them re-checked.

I could be wrong - exactly how long has it been, and what were you using?

 

[FEEDDMACHINE]

DR. X, this is my 3rd week on clomid & I took my first HCG shot 3 weeks after my last

 

[FEEDDMACHINE]

sorry, 3 weeks after last shot of eq. I did 11 weeks of prop/winny/tren/eq , but I only did the tren the first 6 weeks.

 

[DrJMW]

Ok boys, I just got my test results back for my blood work & will be needing your help on how to fix my low test levels.

First of all, I have been having very little or no sex drive at all & currently on my 2nd week of clomid therapy. I also took my HCG before I ran the clomid. I diden't take any nolvadex or arimadex this cycle. My cycle was 11 weeks of PROP/WINNY/EQ AND ONLY 6 WEEKS OF TREN.

TOTAL TESTOSTEERONE: 312 RANGE: 260-1000 NG/DL
LH, SERUM : 0.2 RANGE: 2.0-18.0 MIU/ML
FSH, SERUM : 0.3 RANGE: 1.6-18.1 MIU/ML
ESTRADIOL : 46 (ESTROGEN) RANGE: 21-50 PG/ML

MY QUESTIONS ARE,

1) Is it normal to have a total test of 312, cause Iam only 28 and I think it should be higher?

AT THIS POINT, THIS LOOKS NORMAL. TIME WILL TELL. YOU SHOULD TEST AT TEH END OF YOUR RECOVERY CYCLE TO CHECK THE EFFECTIVENESS OF IT. YOU ARE STILL SHUT DOWN.

2) What does LH & FSH stand for & what does it mean when its that low? What can I do to raise these levels?

AGAIN, TIME. LH=LUTEINIZING HORMONE. RESPONSIBLE FOR STIMULATING TESTOS PRODUCTION IN TESTES. FSH=FOLLICLE STIMULATING HORMONE. RESPONSIBLE FOR STIMULATING SPERM PRODUCTION IN TESTES. THESE LEVELS RECOVER AS PART OF THE RECOVERY CYCLE.

3) Is 46 kinda high for my estrogen level, even though its in the normal range?

DEPENDS ON YOUR GENETICS. IF YOU TOOK BASELINE READINGS, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE SOMETHING TO COMPARE. THIS IS WHY I CONTINUOUSLY RECOMMEND BASELINE TESTING TO SEE WHERE YOU STARTED, TESTING DURING A CYCLE TO SEE YOUR BODY'S REACTION TO THE CYCLE, AND TESTING AFTER RECOVERY TO CHECK THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE RECOVERY CYCLE.

 

[FEEDDMACHINE]

Thx DrJMW for the input. I'll make sure I get tested before I start my next cycle & compare it to the test I take after the cycle is done.