Mixing Clomid with Nolvadex

[Jean-Claude]

Hey guys, I tried to ask about this in another thread but didnt really get any answers as the title didnt have much to do with the actual questions I hav., Ive been on PCT after 12 weeks of test E for 4-5 days, taking Nolva 40mg a day and had planned to do only Nolva but now so many ppl are telling me I should add some Clomid in too, so I was wondering if its too late to add in some, and if now how much would you dose it?? thanks.

 

[Ruturaj]

no you don't need clomid for pct
take nolva
week 1-2 40mgs/week
week 3-4 20mgs/week

 

[CenturionHRT]

Clomid and/or Nolva will work. They both are SERMS and are about equal in effectiveness when used in a post cycle therapy (pct) protocol correctly.

 

[Jean-Claude]

Clomid and/or Nolva will work. They both are SERMS and are about equal in effectiveness when used in a post cycle therapy (pct) protocol correctly.

Ok but how would u dose the clomid and when would you start it if im already on 40 mg a day of nolva for the past 5 days?

 

[CenturionHRT]

Ok but how would u dose the clomid and when would you start it if im already on 40 mg a day of nolva for the past 5 days?

Example of a Nolva and Clomid PCT

clomid/nolva
WK1 50mged/40mged
wk2 25mged/20mged
wk3 25mged/10mged
Wk4 25mged/10mged

Although, I think just Nolva will suffice for your PCT.

Why do you want to use both?

It is controversial if using both will speed recovery any better then just one.

You can only stimulate your body to make a so much LH...

 

[Jean-Claude]

Example of a Nolva and Clomid post cycle therapy (pct)

clomid/nolva
WK1 50mged/40mged
wk2 25mged/20mged
wk3 25mged/10mged
Wk4 25mged/10mged

Although, I think just Nolva will suffice for your post cycle therapy (pct).

Why do you want to use both?

It is controversial if using both will speed recovery any better then just one.

You can only stimulate your body to make a so much LH...

I dont know Ive been told that only Nolva for post cycle therapy (pct) is not good, but I used HGC towards the end of my cycle so I guess i dont need it. what do you think?

 

[CenturionHRT]

I dont know Ive been told that only Nolva for post cycle therapy (pct) is not good, but I used HGC towards the end of my cycle so I guess i dont need it. what do you think?

I think just the Nolva will be fine for just a 12 week Test E cycle that you used Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during.Although running both wont hurt...

What was the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) protocol you ran toward end?

 

[Conrad415]

Hey guys, I tried to ask about this in another thread but didnt really get any answers as the title didnt have much to do with the actual questions I hav., Ive been on post cycle therapy (pct) after 12 weeks of test E for 4-5 days, taking Nolva 40mg a day and had planned to do only Nolva but now so many ppl are telling me I should add some Clomid in too, so I was wondering if its too late to add in some, and if now how much would you dose it?? thanks.

This may not be up your alley but this is what several guys I know do:

Begin post cycle therapy (pct) within 5-10 days when using long acting esters or 1-3 days when using short acting esters.
The post cycle therapy (pct) protocol would consist of 1,000-1,500 IUs Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 3x/wk (mod/wed/fri) in combination with 20 mgs Nolvadex ED and, if necessary, 50-100 mgs Clomid ED.
The mid/intermittent cycle protocol of 500-1,000 IUs Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and 20 mgs Nolvadex ED for 7 days consecutively can and should be utilized when necessary during prolonged (12+/wks) or heavy dosage (1,000+mgs/wk) cycles.
In addition, blood work is performed before beginning a cycle and after completing a cycle in order to establish baseline values and evaluate recovery, respectively.

 

[CenturionHRT]

The post cycle therapy (pct) protocol would consist of 1,000-1,500 IUs Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 3x/wk (mod/wed/fri) in combination with 20 mgs Nolvadex ED and, if necessary, 50-100 mgs Clomid ED.

Using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during post cycle therapy (pct) is not wise.... It will negatively effect your HPTA.

This overall protocol is overkill for just a 12 wk cycle of Test E....

 

[THE-DET-OAK]

Using Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during post cycle therapy (pct) is not wise.... It will negatively effect your HPTA.

This overall protocol is overkill for just a 12 wk cycle of Test E....

way overkill..........

 

[Jean-Claude]

I think just the Nolva will be fine for just a 12 week Test E cycle that you used Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) during.Although running both wont hurt...

What was the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) protocol you ran toward end?

I only pinned 3 times, 500 UI of HGC in my last 3 weeks, u think I should take some more? or add some clomid or stay with the nolva only?

 

[RJ]

I only pinned 3 times, 500 UI of HGC in my last 3 weeks, u think I should take some more? or add some clomid or stay with the nolva only?

No offense dude, but you've been given an answer to this 3 times above.

Nolva is ok by itself. If you wanna do Clomid, do it at the above protocol. If not, don't. Don't do any more Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as its suppressive to the HPTA, whic means its counter-productive while trying to recover.

Stop worrying so much. You're over-complicating things.

 

[RJ]

This may not be up your alley but this is what several guys I know do:

Begin PCT within 5-10 days when using long acting esters or 1-3 days when using short acting esters.
The PCT protocol would consist of 1,000-1,500 IUs Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) 3x/wk (mod/wed/fri) in combination with 20 mgs Nolvadex ED and, if necessary, 50-100 mgs Clomid ED.
The mid/intermittent cycle protocol of 500-1,000 IUs Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) and 20 mgs Nolvadex ED for 7 days consecutively can and should be utilized when necessary during prolonged (12+/wks) or heavy dosage (1,000+mgs/wk) cycles.
In addition, blood work is performed before beginning a cycle and after completing a cycle in order to establish baseline values and evaluate recovery, respectively.

It shouldn't be up your alley. Whoever told you this is a fucking idiot. Minimum 2 weeks after long ester gear should PCT be started, not 5-10 days. You still got exogenous test floating around during that time.

And doing Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) with SERMs is wrong. Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) is suppressive as Centurion said above.

Please be careful when you copy and paste.

 

[Jean-Claude]

No offense dude, but you've been given an answer to this 3 times above.

Nolva is ok by itself. If you wanna do Clomid, do it at the above protocol. If not, don't. Don't do any more Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) as its suppressive to the HPTA, whic means its counter-productive while trying to recover.

Stop worrying so much. You're over-complicating things.

Well I'm worrying so much cause I'm losing weight really fast, and I only gained like 16 pounds so I want to at least keep some of it.

 

[RJ]

Well I'm worrying so much cause I'm losing weight really fast, and I only gained like 16 pounds so I want to at least keep some of it.

If you are losing weigh that fast, then you gained a bunch of fat and water and you should expect to lose more. But even if you gained 5lbs of muscle (which is a shitload) and lose 11lbs of water and fat. Who cares? You kept what you wanted. Stop worrying about what the scale says.

Listen, two things you gotta remember.

1. AAS doesn't make the body, intense training, proper nutrition and rest does. AAS is just a tool to help push past barriers.

2. No amount of SERMs will make you 100% in regards to recovery. They are tools in aiding your body's natural recovery, which can only return to normal through time.

 

[jts3034]

Hcg during post cycle therapy (pct) is no good!....Nolva alone is fine....Made me shoot big loads like porn star!