MMA cycles

[destined4gr8ness]

So im sure you have all seen the mma fighters that are absolutely ripped and fighting at sub 5% bf.

What do you guys think these guys are taking? ive heard a low dose test with var and EQ, but i also heard of them running primo/var/eq/mast? so no test? any input on this?

 

[DADAWG]

So im sure you have all seen the mma fighters that are absolutely ripped and fighting at sub 5% bf.

What do you guys think these guys are taking? ive heard a low dose test with var and EQ, but i also heard of them running primo/var/eq/mast? so no test? any input on this?

they use the same stuff as everone else and then they do a extreme cut prior to a fight to make weight. once again its diet not the drug that decides the outcome.

 

[BalcoBob]

Yeah but decca and tren will kill your cardio. They probably take HGH,TEST,EQ,VAR...I hear eq is really good because it increase your red blood cells which helps with your cardio. I train jitsu and tai and the worst thing you can take is dbol,tren,decca type cycle it will slow you down and kill your cardio...

 

[brother bundy]

steroids will not make u fight better I have over ten years fighting experience and have seen tons of skinny guys who fight very well drop big sterioded guys right the fuck out.

 

[destined4gr8ness]

im not saying that it makes them a better fighter..im just asking what you guys think they are taking.

deca/tren/winny are obviously a bad choice because of its affects on cardio/joints, but im trying to see what else you guys think they run. ive heard multiple say EQ because of its positive effects on cardio.

 

[brother bundy]

BJ Penn nick diaz fedor randy, jones some of the best fighters ever never used steriods.Even GSP who alot say uses never did. it doesnt make sense to juice in mma muscle will not help u in this sport and if they are on some shit how can we really know?

 

[T04z]

From the few MMA guys I've talked to, low dose test cycles to help with recovery as their training is extremely intense is quite common. Anavar is another widely used drug, and Halo is usually taken prior to a fight.

 

[R1rider]

Yeah but decca and tren will kill your cardio. They probably take HGH,TEST,EQ,VAR...I hear eq is really good because it increase your red blood cells which helps with your cardio. I train jitsu and tai and the worst thing you can take is dbol,tren,decca type cycle it will slow you down and kill your cardio...

true, but eq can be bad as well. it pumps your muscles up too much, try choking someone out when you are less flexible due to pumps.

i would get a pump brushing my teeth when on eq

if anything take some test, diet and lots of cardio and conditioning.

 

[PrayForMojo]

BJ Penn nick diaz fedor randy, jones some of the best fighters ever never used steriods.Even GSP who alot say uses never did. it doesnt make sense to juice in mma muscle will not help u in this sport and if they are on some shit how can we really know?

Well Randy was on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) therapy, same as Hendo and Sonnen. They attribute it to their weight cutting in their wrestling competition days...

Some take them for dumb reasons as well, Barnett and Silvia both said they took them-when they were caught-for aesthetic purposes. Alves was caught with an illegal diuretic. Bonnar had a horse steroid. Leben as well. Sherk as well but he provided evidence that his sample was tainted and had his suspension reduced. Same with Marquardt the first time then he got busted for TRT...

They're cracking down since the Fox tv deal. It's nowhere near as bad in the old "Just Bleed" days or the PRIDE era in Japan where they didn't have an athletic committee to oversee testing. The promotion itself did testing but it was oddly geared towards recreational drugs...

Whenever the UFC goes oversees it does it's own testing as well and sometimes catches people. They don't mess around so those guys need to have their programs down to a science.

 

[builtbeast]

steroids will not make u fight better I have over ten years fighting experience and have seen tons of skinny guys who fight very well drop big sterioded guys right the fuck out.

Total BS. Steroids can make you a better fighter as you can increase performance, be it strength, reflexes, or just recovery time. Yes, skill is of paramount importance but you cannot negate the effects of performance enhancers.

true, but eq can be bad as well. it pumps your muscles up too much, try choking someone out when you are less flexible due to pumps.

i would get a pump brushing my teeth when on eq

if anything take some test, diet and lots of cardio and conditioning.

This. And HGH is also quite popular or at least it was when there was a lack of adequate testing methods.

 

[BalcoBob]

If your arms are so pumped you can't choke someone u either have bad technique or your way to big to be fighting. If your taking EQ and your lifting weight the right way for MMA then you won't be huge and your pumps wont effect your chokes. As long as you stretch and workout the way you fight your pumps shouldn't effect anything. For the dude who said steroids don't help is on one. Recovery alone is a HUGE advantage. If one guy can train 3 times a day and recover he's gonna be better off then the guy who can only train once.

 

[R1rider]

^im 6-2 and 258lbs. if i fought again i would drop to 235-240, and my technique is flawless

yes AAS will help a fighter, but technique, skill and conditioning are still key!

 

[brother bundy]

Total BS. Steroids can make you a better fighter as you can increase performance, be it strength, reflexes, or just recovery time. Yes, skill is of paramount importance but you cannot negate the effects of performance enhancers.



This. And HGH is also quite popular or at least it was when there was a lack of adequate testing methods.

Anderson silva is the best fighter in the world does he look like he takes juice.NO he will crush anyone u put in front of him.Skills will beat peformance inhancing drugs any day.Dont get me wrong I love gear and yes u will recover faster it wont make u win.Sean shirk nandrolone user got fucked up by bj penn.

 

[Losway]

So im sure you have all seen the mma fighters that are absolutely ripped and fighting at sub 5% bf.

What do you guys think these guys are taking? ive heard a low dose test with var and EQ, but i also heard of them running primo/var/eq/mast? so no test? any input on this?

Sometimes times is just hard work brother....

 

[darkside06]

Yeah but decca and tren will kill your cardio. They probably take HGH,TEST,EQ,VAR...I hear eq is really good because it increase your red blood cells which helps with your cardio. I train jitsu and tai and the worst thing you can take is dbol,tren,decca type cycle it will slow you down and kill your cardio...

^This is correct!

A lot of the fighters at the MMA gym I work out at run Test/EQ. not sure about the Var but this seams to be the new thing for MMA fighters.

 

[darkside06]

BJ Penn nick diaz fedor randy, jones some of the best fighters ever never used steriods.Even GSP who alot say uses never did. it doesnt make sense to juice in mma muscle will not help u in this sport and if they are on some shit how can we really know?

they never did....or they never got cought.

TRT is not band in MMA. Every fighter out there is trying to tank ther Test levels to get on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) now.

 

[brother bundy]

I dont know mayb im just naive

 

[darkside06]

I dont know mayb im just naive

i'm not saying that man....just everyone out there is looking for an edge now.

Nobody wants to believe their heros are anything but natural and real. Sad fact is most of them probably are not but we never know until they get cought.

 

[brother bundy]

i'm not saying that man....just everyone out there is looking for an edge now.

Nobody wants to believe their heros are anything but natural and real. Sad fact is most of them probably are not but we never know until they get cought.

anderson really looks like he never took shit.What do you think?

 

[darkside06]

anderson really looks like he never took shit.What do you think?

Hard to say....he's a fucking phenom!