My boyfriends anger outbursts

[realtorb]

If a person is going to experience negative side effects such as anger and mood swings, how long after the dose might this occur? I know this is a really subjective question with a lot of variables and depending on the cause...

But hypothetically, if anger and prickness is increased as a result, is there a ballpark timeframe that these things would peak after injection?

 

[scorob777]

Kind of a complicated question, depends on what is being injected. A long ester like decanoate could be a couple days to build up to max blood level. A short or no ester like test or tren base could hit within an hour or two.

If he's been taking these things for weeks now odds are he has leveled out at a certain blood level, and if the esters are long then I doubt assholishness would be tied to taking a shot. If so inclined he would likely be a powder keg all the time.

Or, as mentioned if he's doing something odd like injecting large doses of no ester product, then it could definitely be tied closely to shot time.

 

[jp4355]

I agree with Tankmanbob, it's difficult to say without knowing Exactly what He's been doing, and for how long.

If He was Bitchy before taking AAS, chances are he'll just get worse.

If not, could be an Estrogen Imbalance, especially if he's not taking an AI.
AI ~ Aromatase Inhibitor used to control Estrogen while On-Cycle.......................... JP

 

[PapaNoel]

Playing devils advocate i'm going to say maybe he's always an asshole ?
Generally speaking, AAS tends to make you happier and more stable (excluding excessive use of tren...).

How does he get when drunk ? I like to use that analogy, if he becomes violent and loud, there's a big chance AAS will have the same effect. Sorta like using AAS as an excuse to act out "but ohh baby, im on a ton of testosterone, im supposed to be "X"..."
Personally, I'm a giggly baby when I'm drunk and I actually become less violent, more tolerant, more patience, just everything better on cycle...I think my confidence just skyrockets from all the hormones floating around.
wOnly thing thats effecting me, is if you manage to really piss me off, its super hard to shake it off. It can create murderous thoughts for real and they can last for hours....

 

[texas.redneck]

I am just wrapping up a longer ester cycle. I wanna say during the first couple weeks I felt spikes like maybe 24-36 hours after injection. And my two kids are can be some bratty middle schoolers at times, and believe me they know how to push all my buttons. So during those first several weeks if they set me off they got an extra helping of dad angry outburst (usually tongue lashing with some expletives). I just became generally more irritable and less patient with them during the first several weeks of this cycle. Once everything leveled out in my body I feel like I got back to normal irratability levels. I was real moody though because if I came home on a workout high with all kinds of endorphins flowing I'd be super good mood.

So not sure if any of this is helpful. But to my point, your BF could be going through this highly irritable phase. My outburst of anger on my boys happens on or off steroids but I think I may have been a little less patient with my gf as well.

 

[IMT]

People go through phases and due to stress have to pop once in a while. But you should clarify what dosages of what compounds so we can relate more.

 

[IMT]

If a person is going to experience negative side effects such as anger and mood swings, how long after the dose might this occur? I know this is a really subjective question with a lot of variables and depending on the cause...

But hypothetically, if anger and prickness is increased as a result, is there a ballpark timeframe that these things would peak after injection?

Op you need to tell us what compounds, we have no idea what compounds your talking about as each has its own

 

[LateStart]

As stated above, compounds are important to know.

Please don't let anyone tell you that steroids can't make a man irritable or violent. Testosterone, which all anabolic steroids are designed to mimic or replace, is directly responsible for making us competitive and passionate about what we do. It increases our sex drive and our desire to succeed in everything. It's what makes men who we are. Everything that is man, both good and bad, can be closely tied to testosterone. Give any human being a large enough dose of testosterone and they will be quick to temper and easily irritated. In some cases this is completely uncontrollable. I wish it weren't so.....but it is. Roid rage is real. The only real way to control it to any degree is to manage your estrogen (through AI usage) and to keep the doses as low as possible.

We can't escape our biology. All animals in the animal kingdom become aggressive and sex focused when their testosterone levels skyrocket. Normally docile creatures begin to fight one another and focus almost solely on mating. All animals depend on this for the survival of their species. We are no different.
Steroid users, like myself , will often say things like "Roid rage is a myth" or "steroids only make a man an ass of he is already an ass".
Both of these quotes statements are completely false. Give a calm quiet man huge doses of testosterone and he will become less quiet and less calm. He will argue more than usual.....because arguments are competitions and we want to win all competitions.

To anyone who reads this and becomes offended, I am sorry. My intent is not to offend but to help anyone intrested to understand that we are in fact playing with fire. Please be careful and give these delicate hormones the respect they deserve. Saying that they don't cause the side effects that we all know they do is a HUGE disservice to those who seek knowledge of them before using them.

In closing I would just like to say........give a man enough testosterone and he will become a chest pounding silverback gorilla. He will want to do nothing but seek out sexual contact and fight anything that gets in his way. Ok.....maybe I'm being a little dramatic but hopefully my point has been made. Roid rage is real. Let's all try to address it so it doesn't negatively impact our lives.

Best of luck to all

 

[juced_porkchop]

Then hes already an ass/prick, maybe hides it better, but aas doesnt make you someone else. maybe cut your losses now vs. the same shit coming years down the road and having wasted more time... if anger management is not an option, then maybe leave

 

[PapaNoel]

Then hes already an ass/prick, maybe hides it better, but aas doesnt make you someone else. maybe cut your losses now vs. the same shit coming years down the road and having wasted more time... if anger management is not an option, then maybe leave

This is exactly what I think and what I reason too.
AAS really doesn't make you someone else, its just highlights certain personality traits more or less depending on who you are.

 

[LateStart]

No offense to all those who have fooled themselves with broscience lies........but steroids make us into someone else. It's why we take them. We could be strong and muscular without them.....but with them we are fire breathing dragons that are not to be fucked with. Anything less has a definition.....its called TRT. Anything more and we become more aggressive. Most of us take it out on ourselves in the gym but we can easily turn on anyone who disrespects us. We are way more alpha Male at these levels. I'm not saying that steroids will make everyone a wife beater. But I am saying that if you fuck with a man off cycle then he ain't the same man you're fucking with if you fuck with him on cycle. On cycle......WE ARE BETTER LEFT THE HELL ALONE. Roid rage is real.

I love all the bros on this site but let's not lie to ourselves or to others about this. Please. I beg you. Saying that increasing your testosterone levels to 5 times what they were when you were 18 will not make you more irritable or aggressive is like saying you can take a huge testosterone cycle with no AI and you will not get gyno. Maybe you wont........but you need to prepare yourself for it.

We are here for one purpose and one purpose only.....to answer each others questions with honest experience and to prepare each other to cycle as safely as possible. If testosterone didn't make me different in so many ways then I wouldn't fuck with the shit.

Honesty bros. Honesty is important on this site

 

[PapaNoel]

First of all you cant generalize for a whole group of people.
I for one...is someone who gets less aggressive on steroids. Also happier, more patience, tolerate and just generally a better person. And i know I'm not alone in this.
It's a poor excuse that tries to remove accountability for your own actions, the appropriate answer or solution if you will, is not to shift blame over to the steroids...because you're choosing to take steroids knowing you'll become more aggressive, which again, is a totally free and open choice you as an individual decided to make.
Roid rage is a myth.

Its not like people magically get a new "the hulk" personality and seeks out fights just cuz he pinned some testosterone... It will take precisely the same amount of bullshit to set me off, the difference is once you set me off, its much harder to bounce back down again.
I take steroids to enhance my recovery, strength and ability to grow muscle at a highly accelerated rate. I dont take it to become a different person. But everyone is different, with different goals and means to an end.
Steroids to me is literally cheating time.

 

[LateStart]

First of all you cant generalize for a whole group of people.
I for one...is someone who gets less aggressive on steroids. Also happier, more patience, tolerate and just generally a better person. And i know I'm not alone in this.
It's a poor excuse that tries to remove accountability for your own actions, the appropriate answer or solution if you will, is not to shift blame over to the steroids...because you're choosing to take steroids knowing you'll become more aggressive, which again, is a totally free and open choice you as an individual decided to make.
Roid rage is a myth.

Its not like people magically get a new "the hulk" personality and seeks out fights just cuz he pinned some testosterone... It will take precisely the same amount of bullshit to set me off, the difference is once you set me off, its much harder to bounce back down again.
I take steroids to enhance my recovery, strength and ability to grow muscle at a highly accelerated rate. I dont take it to become a different person. But everyone is different, with different goals and means to an end.
Steroids to me is literally cheating time.

Sorry bro. But you said it's a myth then you said it happens. You said it doesnt happen to you then you said it does. Also, I have been following your log since you started it and it has happened in your log. I mean no offense here.....its just that you and I and most steroid users have been lying to people about the existence of roid rage. I agree that just cuz you're on doesnt mean you're gonna hulk up because you scratched your hand working on your car......but like you said quoted here, once you get set off it takes more to calm you down. I'm sorry bro but that's the definition of roid rage. It changes the amount of shit we will tolerate and keeps us pissed longer once we get there. It's not an excuse to do whatever ya like....but it's a part of what we are doing to ourselves. Good idea to avoid situations that would piss us off while on cycle and certainly avoid excessive alcohol consumption. I've seen two people I know do time losing their temper drunk and on cycle. They did things that they would normally never do.
We have all seen this and we lie because we can't admit we lose control. We want to keep abusing these hormones because they do make us more aggressive and more muscular and more confident. Also make us love sex all the more. Testosterone is great But all bros need to be warned.......please stay away from situations that anger you and please work harder to control the anger when it happens....because it is going to happen

 

[PapaNoel]

Roid rage is a myth... There's even several threads on this already and the general consensuses on these boards is that, roid rage is a myth.
I said it takes exactly the same amount of bullshit to piss me off, i'm already an aggressive and violent person off cycle. On cycle, i become less violent. Something i've mentioned more then once vs that time my barber drenched me in some fucking oil (guess what, i would have reacted the exact same way off cycle... It just wouldn't have taken 90 minutes to shake it off, probably 10 minutes...) But please show me where I lived out some roid rage and blamed steroids ?

Can you still piss me off ? Of couse, im human...Can you still drive me to beat you up ? Yes. Do I feel its harder to come down from aggression on cycle, vs off ? yes.
Do I repeatedly tell myself that im on steroids if it happens and make sure I calm down and take response ability for my own actions instead of living them out and blaming steroids ? Yes I do.

Still doesn't magically make me another person or gives me another mentality.
Which again goes back to my previous statement that steroids only highlights certain personality traits you already have, but it doesn't give you new ones.

I'm quite calmer now when im older, but "roid rage" is laughable when thinking about my own life... Trust me bro, you dont need steroids to be a violent fucked up human being...

 

[PapaNoel]

I just remembered i'm starting tren and masteron in 2 days and I have a feeling i'll have to eat my own words sometime during these next 8 weeks lol.
But the answer then will be, do as I say, not as I do

Have a nice weekend late

 

[3J]

the use of gear is never an excuse to act foolish..

thats not ok

 

[LateStart]

Agreed. In this case the gear can not be used as an excuse. If you can't control yourself on gear then you don't use gear. Simple. If someone on gear puts you in a dangerous situation then you use whatever means necessary to remove them from your life (divorce, break up, etc)

I maintain my stance that gear can change a person. Sometimes drastically. Some experience then and never touch the stuff again. Some ignore the signs until it's too late. Different people respond differently but most suffer bouts with roid rage at some point. The roid rage I'm talking about is not to mean that it'll make you kill your family and hang yourself in front of the church down the street. What I mean is a little more angry than usual. Maybe a little road rage when someone cuts you off when normally that wouldnt bother you. Or the kind santa mentioned above......where you stay pissed off much longer than usual.

Either way.....in a relationship we deserve to be treated with mutual respect and should pursue it until we have found it. Good luck op

 

[juced_porkchop]

No offense to all those who have fooled themselves with broscience lies........but steroids make us into someone else. It's why we take them. We could be strong and muscular without them.....but with them we are fire breathing dragons that are not to be fucked with. Anything less has a definition.....its called TRT. Anything more and we become more aggressive. Most of us take it out on ourselves in the gym but we can easily turn on anyone who disrespects us. We are way more alpha Male at these levels. I'm not saying that steroids will make everyone a wife beater. But I am saying that if you fuck with a man off cycle then he ain't the same man you're fucking with if you fuck with him on cycle. On cycle......WE ARE BETTER LEFT THE HELL ALONE. Roid rage is real.

I love all the bros on this site but let's not lie to ourselves or to others about this. Please. I beg you. Saying that increasing your testosterone levels to 5 times what they were when you were 18 will not make you more irritable or aggressive is like saying you can take a huge testosterone cycle with no AI and you will not get gyno. Maybe you wont........but you need to prepare yourself for it.

We are here for one purpose and one purpose only.....to answer each others questions with honest experience and to prepare each other to cycle as safely as possible. If testosterone didn't make me different in so many ways then I wouldn't fuck with the shit.

Honesty bros. Honesty is important on this site

This is YOUR exp man.... not everyone elses... I am more calm on 500-750mg test then 100-200mg ew (hrt) alpha-male/leader type/confidence is NOT the same as anger or aggression. and aggression is not the same as anger...

I do not agree with you. I do agree it may set some people off, that is their own personal issues they need to deal with, not the aas IMO
some people cant handle confidence and where just a hidden ass all along... IMO

 

[juced_porkchop]

Sorry bro. But you said it's a myth then you said it happens. You said it doesnt happen to you then you said it does. Also, I have been following your log since you started it and it has happened in your log. I mean no offense here.....its just that you and I and most steroid users have been lying to people about the existence of roid rage. I agree that just cuz you're on doesnt mean you're gonna hulk up because you scratched your hand working on your car......but like you said quoted here, once you get set off it takes more to calm you down. I'm sorry bro but that's the definition of roid rage. It changes the amount of shit we will tolerate and keeps us pissed longer once we get there. It's not an excuse to do whatever ya like....but it's a part of what we are doing to ourselves. Good idea to avoid situations that would piss us off while on cycle and certainly avoid excessive alcohol consumption. I've seen two people I know do time losing their temper drunk and on cycle. They did things that they would normally never do.
We have all seen this and we lie because we can't admit we lose control. We want to keep abusing these hormones because they do make us more aggressive and more muscular and more confident. Also make us love sex all the more. Testosterone is great But all bros need to be warned.......please stay away from situations that anger you and please work harder to control the anger when it happens....because it is going to happen

Iv worked clube security on and off cycle... and trust me there is many situations there. No diff for me if you have mental issues you have mental issues. for some a cup of coffee might set it off, for others a cycle, others maybe a scene in movie or en experience (liek fear of heights ect)
RAGE is real as is lossing control, not roid rage... if you are alreadywith issues you are simply accountable to know what set you off. be it a fast moving car, coffee or steroids. but the blame doeasnt go to them IMO

 

[LateStart]

Iv worked clube security on and off cycle... and trust me there is many situations there. No diff for me if you have mental issues you have mental issues. for some a cup of coffee might set it off, for others a cycle, others maybe a scene in movie or en experience (liek fear of heights ect)
RAGE is real as is lossing control, not roid rage... if you are alreadywith issues you are simply accountable to know what set you off. be it a fast moving car, coffee or steroids. but the blame doeasnt go to them IMO

Absolutely agree. Just like I can't blame alcohol because I fight every time I get drunk. I know if I get drunk I will get irritable. If steroids make me lose control then I should stay away. I can't blame them if I knew going in. My only argument is that steroids will make us irritable at times and we have to be responsible when it happens. Keep our cool. The majority of us do......or we quit.
My real concern is that if someone has never done steroids they need to know that it could make them irritable. Lots of bros just say it won't make you angry or short tempered unless you're an asshole already. I just want newbies to know that they will likely have to control themselves if they stay on this path for very long. Controlling yourself should be pretty easy but less so if you had no idea that roid rage is real. It is real and we all deal with it......most of us handle it quite well and the untrained eye would never know we were any different. I just want the newbs to be prepared. It's the safest way to cycle.......being prepared for all possible sides, rage and irritability being one of them.

Again.....so very sorry if these words touch a nerve with anyone. I am not trying to offend, only to get it out there so people are better prepared.

Best wishes to all