My experience with SARM S4

[Grizz801]

I'm not trying to get any questions answered, I'm just posting about my experience on SARM S4. I did a lot of research on S4 and finally worked up enough nerve to run it. I started three weeks ago at 50mg Ed. Then on my second week I bumped it up to 75mg Ed. The first week I noticed that my libido was up and for some reason my nuts were hanging a lot lower than normal and were a lot bigger than normal. Not that I'm complaining but I never read about that happening. I did experience the vision side effects as posted by many other people. At first I noticed that it took a lot longer to adjust to the dark when turning off the lights in my house. Then I started to experience the yellow tint to everything.

A couple of days ago my eyes were hurting really bad and I had a hard time focusing on things while driving. I couldn't even watch TV without having issues. Then last night my family and I were coming home from a restraint and I had to pull over and let my wife drive because I just couldn't see. Everything was really blurry and yellow. We got home and I went to bed. I woke up around 3:30 am and I couldn't see right. I thought I had a bunch of eye boogers or something. I rubbed my eyes and no eye bookers. I have night light all over my house so there was a little light in all the rooms but I still couldn't see right. It was like someone had put a black mask/blanket over my head and I could only see the light through a few pin holes. I woke my wife up and had her turn on the fan light and I had the same thing. I was really freaked out.

I almost had my wife drive me to the ER. I decided to go back to sleep and see if anything changed when I woke up again. I woke up again around 7:00 am and I experienced the same thing only this time my vision came back after about fifteen minutes of waking up and trying to focus on things around the room. I still have a yellowish tint to everything but I've read that all this goes away after a few days of being off of S4. After last night and this morning I will never run S4 again.

On a side note when I started S4 I was at 300 lbs. I weighed myself this morning and I weighed 278 lbs but the benefits don't outweigh the cost in my mind. I'd rather be fat and able to see then ripped and blind.

I'm not saying that someone will get the same sides that I did but I just wanted to post my experience so people can be more informed when thinking about trying S4.

 

[Captain Sum Ting Wong]

oh yeah. the yellowish tint will freak you the fuck out. everywhere i went, all the lights were yellow, when they were white. car headlights. all yellow. etc.... takes about a week to go away

 

[TheFitnessLife4ever]

Or you could stop relying on chemicals and rely on diet and training to get your weight down... I guess hard work's hard to find nowadays.. Everyone wants a shortcut

 

[3J]

at 300lbs what were you doing running compounds PERIOD???

 

[3J]

Unless your 6'10???

 

[308power]

at 300lbs what were you doing running compounds PERIOD???

Thats a broad generalization. I ran s4 at 150mg a day for a certain brand as a logger when it first came out. Noticed about a 10% jump in strength. Lost about 4lbs while bulking. Vision side effects were pretty bad but do completely reverse. There was one night for me also where I was blind for about 30 minutes. Funny you mention that. I would describe the night vision as looking through really dark sunglasses. H.i.d headlights look normal and halogens look dim and yellow.

 

[3J]

Your gonna have to justify how that's broad

Thats a broad generalization. I ran s4 at 150mg a day for a certain brand as a logger when it first came out. Noticed about a 10% jump in strength. Lost about 4lbs while bulking. Vision side effects were pretty bad but do completely reverse. There was one night for me also where I was blind for about 30 minutes. Funny you mention that. I would describe the night vision as looking through really dark sunglasses. H.i.d headlights look normal and halogens look dim and yellow.

 

[308power]

Stating you shouldnt be taking anything if you weight 300lbs...

 

[3J]

Stating you shouldnt be taking anything if you weight 300lbs...

why is it common to have Mr Olympic level members all over the place here? Your not making sense. Someone who is 300lbs is rather high level or out of shape. Which goes back to my comment about being very tall.

 

[308power]

Okay.

 

[Grizz801]

Isn't that the point of running gear or supplements...to get a shortcut?

 

[Grizz801]

Actually I'm not very tall. I'm only 6 feet tall. At 300 lbs I can still pass my military PT test. By military standards my body fat is 20%. That's not that great but my low is 18% and my max is 28%. Can you pass a military PT test?

 

[71Avido]

Isn't that the point of running gear or supplements...to get a shortcut?

Kind of.

It's not a shortcut per-say, it's a slight advantage.
With all things gear, diet and training need to be down first to see the greatest benefit from gear.


At any rate, that S4 stuff sounds spooky.

 

[DreDay187]

Actually I'm not very tall. I'm only 6 feet tall. At 300 lbs I can still pass my military PT test. By military standards my body fat is 20%. That's not that great but my low is 18% and my max is 28%. Can you pass a military PT test?

I think passing a fitness test is the least of his concerns.

 

[Grizz801]

I think passing a fitness test is the least of his concerns.

I'm not really concerned. My eyesight is back to normal now. Most people see my weight and think I'm just a huge fat ass with no muscle mass. When I tell people in person what my weight is they can't believe it. Most people say I look like I weigh around 220lbs. All my blood tests have come back normal and my doctor is not concerned with my health. I used to powerlifting in the military until I hurt my back doing dead lifts. I'm not in the military but I still do my PT test on a regular basis just to see if I'm still in that kind of shape. I usually bulk up for a while then I cut by doing a low carb diet. Since taking S4 I've still been on a low carb diet. My current weight is 270 lbs now, I'm not stopping my cut until I get to 250 lbs.

 

[juced_porkchop]

isn't that the point of running gear or supplements...to get a shortcut?

no its not!
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