my final cycle, some questions.

[h-town_boy]

I was thinking about doing one more cycle to push the barriers of my strength and size, but I need a little advice. I was thinking of doing d-bol for 2 weeks with deca and sus 250, then dropping the d-bol. Also after i drop the d-bol I was thinking about throwing in some tren for the last 6 weeks( it will be an 8 week cycle) dropping the deca after the 6th week and the sus after the 4th week and throwing some winnie in for the last 4 weeks that way for the first half of the last 4 weeks i will be taking deca, tren, and winnie, and then for the last two weeks just tren and winnie to really cut everything up. I was also gonna get some clomid and H.C.G., and I was also thinking of getting an anti-estrogen. I plan on picking it all up south of the border some time within the next few months. I am 5'11" around 205 and have taken two cycles of 6 weeks each and 2 cyles of 10-12 weeks each. I have used deca on all occasions, enan for two, t-400 for one, equipoise for 2 cycles, and just tried anavar and tren on the last cycle. My question regards how much weight I should expect to gain, what anti-estrogen I should use, and what sort of dosage I should go for? I was thinking 75mg tren eod, and 400mg deca a week, but I really have no idea as far as the sus, d-bol and winnie go. Also would it be a good idea to ramp the dosages? Any good advice would be helpful.

 

[JohnnyB]

Bro sus and deca have long esters in them they need to be run 10-12 weeks minimum

JohnnyB

 

[Vennom96]

You don't have a clue what you're doing. Like JB said, both sus and deca have long acting esters and will barely be "kicking in" when you're about to stop them. Why would you only run dbol for 2 weeks? If you're gonna run it, run it right. IMO at least 4 weeks.
I didn't read any further, too much to read.

 

[h-town_boy]

So what if i run d-bol for 4 weeks, deca for 12 weeks, sus for 12 weeks, then have tren for 6 weeks as well as winnie for 6 and make it a 14 week cycle or do you think I should maybe even take it to 16 weeks?

 

[Mike Biggun]

Do a 26 week cycle you big girl. Get it in ya properly

 

[h-town_boy]

I was just worried that if i cycled for that long that it would really damage my sex drive.

 

[gotenks004]

I don't know about a 26 week cycle try a 10-12.

 

[h-town_boy]

yah thats what i was thinking like 12-14 at the most.

 

[DADAWG]

I was just worried that if i cycled for that long that it would really damage my sex drive.

deca and tren will shut you down hard almost immediately , 4-6 more weeks wont make much difference . the test you are running with the deca and tren should keep your sex life working fine during the cycle . as for post cycle and during post cycle therapy (pct) viagra is your best bet until the post cycle therapy (pct) has had time to help your natural test recover . some people dont experience trouble with sex post cycle or at most a slight decline where as others experience severe trouble but shortening the cycle to 8 weeks wont fix that trouble imo .

 

[h-town_boy]

Dadawg do u think that 12-14 weeks would be sufficient. Also what anti estrogen do you think I should take, and I have never had the problem before but what can I get to avoid the gyno and when should i take it, during the d-bol or after the cycle completely.

 

[DADAWG]

Dadawg do u think that 12-14 weeks would be sufficient. Also what anti estrogen do you think I should take, and I have never had the problem before but what can I get to avoid the gyno and when should i take it, during the d-bol or after the cycle completely.

you should have nolva on hand for gyno emergencies but if your takeing tren or deca you should take b-6 also if your nips start acting up . i wouldnt take anything unless i was haveing trouble . if your worried about bloat try liquidex at least during the dbol which is notorious for bloat , just .25-.50 mg eod of liquidex should keep bloat well under control .
as for the cycle 1-12 of sus and deca , weeks 1-4 to 5 of dbol , weeks 10 or 11 - 15 of winnie and the same for tren if you want to throw that in but i dont think its needed . you should make very good gains on that cycle as long as the gear is legit and you train properly along with plenty of rest and food . FOOD is the most anabolic substance we can use .

 

[h-town_boy]

so with all this in mind, this is now what i think i will do
week 1-4 d-bol (whats a good dosage im around 200lbs)
week 1-8 deca 400-600mg a week (split into 2 doses)
week 1-8 sus 500mg a week (split into 2 doses)
week 6-12 tren 75mg eod
week 4-12 winnie( dont quite know what dosage)
week 13-15 H.C.G. and anti estrogen(which one should I use?)
week 15-17 clomid

How does this sound?

 

[h-town_boy]

i meant to take the winnie from week 9-12 and the tren 7-12 my bad

 

[h-town_boy]

or should I start the tren immediately following the d-bol and drop it after week 10, then bringing in my pct's during the last two weeks of the winnie.

 

[DADAWG]

i meant to take the winnie from week 9-12 and the tren 7-12 my bad

you went right back to deca and sus for 8 weeks when we told you they ere long esters and needed to be run for a minimum of 10-12 weeks .

 

[h-town_boy]

sorry da dawg i hadnt seen your response when i started adding all these extra replies

 

[h-town_boy]

after reading your reply I was thinking that if i threw the tren in at the same time with the winnie I could still keep making good strength gains, better than with the winnie alone at least, do you think this is a valid point or would I just be wasting my money( cause even south of the border that shit is expensive)

 

[h-town_boy]

Also I had never heard of liquidex, is it legal and if not can I get it on my trip past the rio

 

[h-town_boy]

Oh another think about the sex drive problem, on my last cycle i got some of that enzyte shit(you can get a free 30 days just got to pay shipping(while supplies last)) That shit worked so well i was humping everything. If anybody is interested in that though u need to go online and cancel your subscription right after you get it, otherwise they start to bill you for month to month supply.

 

[h-town_boy]

ok so here would be a better idea
week 1-12 deca @ 200-300bi weekly
week 1-12 sus @250 bi weekly
week 1-4 d-bol (what would be a good dosage?)
week 10-15 winnie(what would be a good dosage?)
week 10-15 tren (As i asked earlier do you think it would be worth the money)
also if i drop the tren do i need to start the pct's after i drop the sus and deca?