My first cycle gone wrong.. dbol&gyno issues

Nolva and clomid both serms? So nolva alone wont make the work?
Some guys say natural production starts even without pct by itfself as time goes on? everyone tells diffrent story

Also i can get nolva from 1 week and not fewdays like i thought... this blows.. now i just hope it wont develope bigger so it's going to be visible..(lump)


dianabol converts into estrogen,that causes gynecomastia but i didnt take any dbols yesterday and today so basicly i have VERY VERY little dbol in my system at the moment so estrogen levels are starting to decrease by itself? or not?
Does the high estrogen level go lower now that i'm not using anything?

There ia a link in this thread to why you want to use clomid and nolva together.

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/a.../675497-ology-frequently-asked-questions.html
 
OKEY FOLKS! read carefully! I toke only 2 weeks dbols only,and i stopped using 1 week ago. My bloodpressure is now normal,balls&erection also. Lump has NOT get anybigger(IT IS NOT VISIBLE)
Do i still have HIGH estrogens levels even after 1 week? do i need to take nolva&or other ai?
Far as i see things i need nothing,tell me your oppinions.

You should run PCT to help your HPTA recover better and. faster.
 
I see.. what about other questions? concerning gyno?

Other questions...

Estradiol should be coming down. But the only way to know for sure is by getting blood work.

Read the gyno threads to learn how to use Raloxifene to reduce it.

Learn about Aromatase Inhibitors so you don't give yourself breast again should you ever use AAS again.

Read the Sticky threads. You are asking some really basic questions that have all been covered in the stickies. You need to do some homework before playing with powerful drugs.
 
also, next time you attempt a cycle (IF you do at all after this experience), make sure to have EVERYTHING on hand before starting. That way if you need to abort you make a seamless transition rather than waiting for orders to ship out. You've also chosen one of the worst times of the year for shipping due to all the public holidays!
 
for getting gyno away after cycle. on cycle you use an AI. Letro is an AI. Pill only cycle not good too you know...

Why wouldn't one want to use Raloxifene or Tamoxifen while on cycle to treat existing gyno? They should already be using an AI (arimidex or Aromasin) to be managing estradiol on cycle.
 
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