My first cycle(updating daily)

[jozifp103]

My only concern is when is this pip going away lol I love to train legs and do it twice a week but I don't see myself doing them with this pain.... I'm a puss when it comes to needles lol so pinning anywhere else is going to be hard. I love that my gf is doing it for me and I don't see or feel anything

make one of your leg days the same day you pin quads and just pin an hour or so after you workout. then pin delts next time. you'll figure out a good schedule.

 

[Hec88]

make one of your leg days the same day you pin quads and just pin an hour or so after you workout. then pin delts next time. you'll figure out a good schedule.

About 90% of people that I read that pin quads are complaining about really bad pip lol so that has me extremely scared however i do want to try delts

 

[Hec88]

Also my first pin was on Monday on my left glute and today Wednesday morning, 3 days later, I noticed I have a red circle where I pinned on Monday it's about an inch and a half round. U can barely see it and thats becuase I have a very white ass. Is that normal?

 

[snowpatrol123]

Also my first pin was on Monday on my left glute and today Wednesday morning, 3 days later, I noticed I have a red circle where I pinned on Monday it's about an inch and a half round. U can barely see it and thats becuase I have a very white ass. Is that normal?

Are you sterilizing properly?

Definitely introduce a few more sites...that way if leg day is coming up, you can pin delts, pecs or lats and it won't interfere.

 

[Hec88]

Are you sterilizing properly?

Definitely introduce a few more sites...that way if leg day is coming up, you can pin delts, pecs or lats and it won't interfere.

Yes I used an alcohol swab to clean the top of the vial and used another to clean where I was pinned. The 25 needle never touched anything so it was clean. Like I said its really really hard to see and I don't have a bump or anything of that sort. I'm going to start looking into last or delts for tomorrow's pin. Ty

 

[ADenver]

Did you let the skin dry after swabbing/before pinning ?

If you feel like it stays around or seems to be getting bigger an easy way to tell is draw a circle around it

 

[Hec88]

My gf pinned like 20secs after cleaning my glute area. I'm going to keep an eye on it for sure now that I noticed it. I'm guessing this isnt normal

 

[Hec88]

So it's still a little red and it's slightly swollen -.- the pip on my second pin is nothing to how much the first one hurt yesterday

 

[Hec88]

So today I did my 3rd pin and it was on the delt. I used a 25 5/8 and felt no pain. I did feel as the liquid went in more than in the glutes. Went to the gym 4hrs later and did bis and tris. My vascularity was crazy. Idk if its becuase it's my 5th day on it and it's already havin an affect or becuase it's my first day back on preworkout lol either way the pics don't do my vascularity justice. Happy flex Friday y'all

 

[Underradar]

So today I did my 3rd pin and it was on the delt. I used a 25 5/8 and felt no pain. I did feel as the liquid went in more than in the glutes. Went to the gym 4hrs later and did bis and tris. My vascularity was crazy. Idk if its becuase it's my 5th day on it and it's already havin an affect or becuase it's my first day back on preworkout lol either way the pics don't do my vascularity justice. Happy flex Friday y'all

Pic show the vascularity! Keep up the good work!

It's a little early but any change in strength?

 

[Underradar]

usually you can tell within a few hours that the oil didn't make it into the muscle. the area will swell and you may have a lump under your skin. my first couple pins i was scared to put the 1" all the way in my thigh and the oil got injected into my fat. the next day the oil seeped down to my knee and it swelled up like a baloon.

1" may be a bit short for glutes...i use a 1.5".

also try to time your workouts so it doesn't get effected by pip (post injection pain). for example, i pin delts on mondays cuz i dont work delts in the gym till wednesday and by then the pain is gone. i pin quads on thursday cuz i dont do legs till tuesday. PIP gets better, but for some it's still always there throughout the whole cycle, and if you pin a muscle and work that muscle right after, it makes the PIP 10X worse

Missing the muscle and injecting into fat is one of my biggest fears. jozifp, how long did it take for the swelling in your knee to go down? Does the oil eventually get absorb/ broken down by the body? Could it lead to a serious health problem requiring medical attention?

I read one post where a guy actually tried to retrieve the oil by using a needle but this seems like a disaster/ infection waiting to happen...

 

[Hec88]

Pic show the vascularity! Keep up the good work!

It's a little early but any change in strength?

It's hard to say becuase this week I'm doing 12's and usually do them every 3wks so by then my strength goes up by a couple of reps.... Three weeks ago I did 2 plates on flat bench for 3 set and on the last one only got 10 with a spot... Two days ago I did all 4 sets by myself... But like I said that strength I've been gaining it naturally from bumping up my calories slowly

 

[Hec88]

So today was my 5th pin.... Is it weird that whenever I pin anywhere on my left side(glute&delt) pip hurts like a bitch but when it's on my right the pip is very minimal

 

[Hec88]

And also after 2days after pin on the left side my skin gets a little red

 

[jozifp103]

Missing the muscle and injecting into fat is one of my biggest fears. jozifp, how long did it take for the swelling in your knee to go down? Does the oil eventually get absorb/ broken down by the body? Could it lead to a serious health problem requiring medical attention?

I read one post where a guy actually tried to retrieve the oil by using a needle but this seems like a disaster/ infection waiting to happen...

haha no its actually not a big deal at all. eventually it gets absorbed, it just takes longer. the swelling took about a week to subside completely. some people on trt actually prefer subq injections as opposed to intramuscular. it's ok for smaller amounts, but anything more than 1/2 cc i would definiely go IM

 

[Underradar]

haha no its actually not a big deal at all. eventually it gets absorbed, it just takes longer. the swelling took about a week to subside completely. some people on trt actually prefer subq injections as opposed to intramuscular. it's ok for smaller amounts, but anything more than 1/2 cc i would definiely go IM

Thanks for the good info...I bet the best thing it to let your body absorb like you said. I couldn't believe the story where one guy tried to retrieve the oil...what a mess!

 

[Underradar]

So today was my 5th pin.... Is it weird that whenever I pin anywhere on my left side(glute&delt) pip hurts like a bitch but when it's on my right the pip is very minimal

Is the injection speed the same on both sides? Also, do you think your hand is more steady when injecting your right delt/glute..thus lower pip than left?

Just wondering if their is any differences between right and left that could contribute to more pip on the left.

 

[Hec88]

Is the injection speed the same on both sides? Also, do you think your hand is more steady when injecting your right delt/glute..thus lower pip than left?

Just wondering if their is any differences between right and left that could contribute to more pip on the left.

My gf is doing the injection.... About the speed yeah they are the same... With a 25 needle u can't pin quick

 

[Hec88]

So I'm about to finish my 6th week and I just want to say I'm very disappointed. When I started the cycle i also started to reverse diet. Figured the extra calories would assist in more gains. The first week I gained almost 5lbs mostly water. After that I've only gained a lb. I'm guessing after 6 weeks i only gained about 2 lbs of muscle. The only big diffrence was my vascularity, it's insane.

 

[Hec88]

Starting my pct in a couple of days so I won't loose all my gains