My first serious recomp cycle

[calindan2013]

You'll see results. 400mg of tren, even without good diet and training will yield results.
You'll pay for those gains when you attempt to recover your body's HPTA.
You'll not keep those gain because you don't know anything about training or diet.

Good luck being cocky and not listening to advice.

Care to at least point out what's wrong with my diet and how exactly am I clueless about nutrtition ? Kindly point out my errors in the food plan I am following. What's too less, what's too much, what's missing? I get protein from meat, cheese, eggs and whey. I get slightly lower calories than BMR. I get low carbs. Why is my diet so crap ? I've been reading lots about nutrition and this diet seems spot on, even though it's pretty simple.

 

[calindan2013]

Like gibo said we're not hating on you
You were given good advice I honestly think you're going to shut yourself down for good and then think how much it's going to cost paying for trt for the rest of your life

I'll just add some test and jab my butt with 200mg per week. Problem solved. What is the problem other than this? Diet is in check, training is there. All those 3 damn substances should work wonders, considering everything else is planned and applied properly.

 

[calindan2013]

You'll see results. 400mg of tren, even without good diet and training will yield results.
You'll pay for those gains when you attempt to recover your body's HPTA.
You'll not keep those gain because you don't know anything about training or diet.

Good luck being cocky and not listening to advice.

So, let's just be calm and focused and stop the criticising, I am noting what you are saying and taking into account. Consider I jab myself with test 200 mg / week , added to all the above. What will be the problem then? I am cutting with my diet, I'm getting plenty of protein and I'm working out, it's absolutely normal and a fact that I will get MUCH better results MUCH faster by running this cycle than by not running it. Obviously, I am getting the fat burning and mass building benefits of some very potent drugs, which will help me get where I want faster. Or is it just imagination and they won't do shit ?

 

[calindan2013]

You'll see results. 400mg of tren, even without good diet and training will yield results.
You'll pay for those gains when you attempt to recover your body's HPTA.
You'll not keep those gain because you don't know anything about training or diet.

Good luck being cocky and not listening to advice.

As said. going to add test , going to work at home with the dumbbels for 1 more month and then going to the gym, at the end of the cycle I'll do a proper PCT and will continue to train and eat properly. I'll do everything in my power to keep what I gained. What else can a man do to keep his gains?

 

[calindan2013]

Which test do you advise me to run along with my cycle if I'm going to introduce it at this point?

 

[Roush]

you'd of been better off just running some Clenbuterol , and thats it . you could of cut in a calorie deficit and the clen would help you burn fat and maintain muscle . without any damage to your HPTA , blood lipid profile, kidney, liver, etc damage that your currently doing.

 

[Gibsonator]

If you were to add in test at this point I think prop would be best because it's a shorter Ester and would get in ur system quicker than waiting for e or c, but you will need to pin it eod...

 

[49ER]

you'd of been better off just running some Clenbuterol , and thats it . you could of cut in a calorie deficit and the clen would help you burn fat and maintain muscle . without any damage to your HPTA , blood lipid profile, kidney, liver, etc damage that your currently doing.

What??? Kidney liver you mean from the creatine? Or the sarms? Bothing in his cycle besides that crap are gonna hurt him

 

[Roush]

What??? Kidney liver you mean from the creatine? Or the sarms? Bothing in his cycle besides that crap are gonna hurt him

Tren and Var have 'toxic' factors , its clearly stated on the pharmacology of these 'drugs' . everyone on this forum with a decent amount learning have told you this , and yet you still don't believe . from me , to Halfwit.

you don't have to believe that , and deny the stated facts yourself if you want , but advising other guys of your delusional beliefs is doing those guys a dis-service.

 

[49ER]

Tren and Var have 'toxic' factors , its clearly stated on the pharmacology of these 'drugs' . everyone on this forum with a decent amount learning have told you this , and yet you still don't believe . from me , to Halfwit.

you don't have to believe that , and deny the stated facts yourself if you want , but advising other guys of your delusional beliefs is doing those guys a dis-service.

What more facts do you need than 2 years worth of bloodwork ive posted after being on tren non stop? But your ignorant ass says it doesnt effect everyone. Fuck what you read prove it check your bloodwork be in only tren get before and after. So there is scientists that got a group of humdreds of bodybuilders injected them full of tren and then tested them to come to that cinclusion? FDA says drugs are safe all the time then thousands die or get ill..... But hey if you read it must be true

 

[Gibsonator]

Boy are we good at derailing the fuck outta these threads lmao

 

[BigSwolenPussy]

Boy are we good at derailing the fuck outta these threads lmao

I was thinking the same thing. You have to admit, it is entertaining though

 

[calindan2013]

I read a lot about clen, and I've seen its very bad for the heart and it also wastes muscle, besides many side effects. And I don't really think Clen's effect alone would be better than the synergistic fat burning/muscle building effect of Tren + Var + Cardarine.

 

[calindan2013]

you'd of been better off just running some Clenbuterol , and thats it . you could of cut in a calorie deficit and the clen would help you burn fat and maintain muscle . without any damage to your HPTA , blood lipid profile, kidney, liver, etc damage that your currently doing.

Besides, cardarine cancels out most of the visible bad side effects from tren and also raises HDL and lowers LDL and helps internal organs and the heart.

 

[calindan2013]

you'd of been better off just running some Clenbuterol , and thats it . you could of cut in a calorie deficit and the clen would help you burn fat and maintain muscle . without any damage to your HPTA , blood lipid profile, kidney, liver, etc damage that your currently doing.

Tren is not hepatoxic and Anavar is just slightly. As for kidneys, it is a risk to consider, but maybe it's a more probable risk if you run huge doses for long periods of times , like many months.

 

[Roush]

I read a lot about clen, and I've seen its very bad for the heart and it also wastes muscle, besides many side effects.

Wastes muscle ?

you must be thinking of T3 or some other thyroid hormone or fat burner . Clenb is an anti catabolic , thats why its used by bodybuilders on cutting cycles

Clenbuterol is mainly used as a fat-loss drug; almost exclusively in cutting cycles. Most users are amazed at the increase in lean mass after clen use. That's because studies have shown that it can increase your fat free mass and increase your basal metabolic rate (BMR), while acting as an anti-catabolic and anabolic.

 

[Roush]

What more facts do you need than 2 years worth of bloodwork ive posted after being on tren non stop? But your ignorant ass says it doesnt effect everyone. Fuck what you read prove it check your bloodwork be in only tren get before and after. So there is scientists that got a group of humdreds of bodybuilders injected them full of tren and then tested them to come to that cinclusion?

i think I'll trust the doctors, scientist, and chemists who develop these drugs and then write the pharmacology of them ,, then some meat head that does not know how to read blood work

Guess i shouldn't be such a dick and id get more help lol i dont know much about bloodwork never had issues till now

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/general-chat-forum/688480-blood-work-related.html


and besides that , blood work is just one very small picture in time of someones over all health . it does not tell a whole lot . you could be dying of brain cancer , heart failure, etc.. right now and your blood work would not tell you shit.

 

[49ER]

i think I'll trust the doctors, scientist, and chemists who develop these drugs and then write the pharmacology of them ,, then some meat head that does not know how to read blood work

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/general-chat-forum/688480-blood-work-related.html


and besides that , blood work is just one very small picture in time of someones over all health . it does not tell a whole lot . you could be dying of brain cancer , heart failure, etc.. right now and your blood work would not tell you shit.

Well that's funny because you're always telling everybody how toxic it it is to the liver and kidneys. You're just a hurt little boy that's why you keep coming back with nonsense get over it you lost

 

[calindan2013]

Well that's funny because you're always telling everybody how toxic it it is to the liver and kidneys. You're just a hurt little boy that's why you keep coming back with nonsense get over it you lost

Should I worry about anything with my current cycle besides HPTA shutdown ? I currently am nearing week 4 with no sides at all.

 

[calindan2013]

will cardarine + tren + anavar kill all the fat from my frame with my deficit diet + workouts + cardio or should I also integrate clen into the stack?