My first steroid cycle Prop only

ythrashin said:
You can use the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) for 4 weeks... You should wait a week or at least 4-5 days before starting post cycle therapy (pct) after your last pin of prop and HCG.
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Thank you very much guys!

Got my adex coming today and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on the weekend going to start on Monday which will give me about 3 weeks. I will do 500iu for 2 shots 5 days before the end of my cycle. I am starting adex at .5 and will go to 1 mg when Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) comes in.
I've had a back pump for 2 days now!!!!!
Man this shit feels good!
My strength is through the roof now, squatting with so much aggression!

How do you guys rate prop comared to E?
I am planning cycle 2 with e and eq mid year 2010. And this time I will add the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) from the start:)
 
Forgot to mention my blood pressure has been normal to low so far which is usual for me. When does it normally get higher?
 
Your BP may not be effected... Depends really on the individual and AAS used.

My BP stays normal usually. It spiked slightly when I last used EQ.
 
austar said:
Thank you very much guys!

Got my adex coming today and Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) on the weekend going to start on Monday which will give me about 3 weeks. I will do 500iu for 2 shots 5 days before the end of my cycle. I am starting adex at .5 and will go to 1 mg when Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) comes in.
I've had a back pump for 2 days now!!!!!
Man this shit feels good!
My strength is through the roof now, squatting with so much aggression!

How do you guys rate prop comared to E?
I am planning cycle 2 with e and eq mid year 2010. And this time I will add the Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) from the start:)
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I'd start low with the Adex and only increase dosage if needed. Lowering estro to much can effect gains,libido and cause sore joints.

What is the exact Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) protocol you are planning on running? 500iu twice a week..? I'd run 500iu eod. for atleast the first week. Just to those balls jump started..then taper off to the 500iu twice a week....

I like Prop over Test E. The EOD injects get old tho.
 
ythrashin said:
I'd start low with the Adex and only increase dosage if needed. Lowering estro to much can effect gains,libido and cause sore joints.

What is the exact Human Chorionic Gonadotropin (HCG) protocol you are planning on running? 500iu twice a week..? I'd run 500iu eod. for atleast the first week. Just to those balls jump started..then taper off to the 500iu twice a week....

I like Prop over Test E. The EOD injects get old tho.
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Ok so hit a bit harder first week. Makes sense. Man this stuff can hurt too. Not every shot hurts but sometimes the pain is quite bad. One of the guys in the gym picks where I shot last by the way I walk:)
To think I was going to do ED at the start:)
 
I'm mixing Test E 250 .7cc and Test P 150 .5cc. EOD.

Cutting it with the Test E makes it much smoother.

You can do the same with sterile oil or B12.
 
ythrashin said:
I'm mixing Test E 250 .7cc and Test P 150 .5cc. EOD.

Cutting it with the Test E makes it much smoother.

You can do the same with sterile oil or B12.
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Making your own Sust:)
Yeah that's a thought how does the dosing work wouldn't one peak sooner then the other?
I suppose it would all work out in the end!
I am not too fussed about the pain I just live with it. It's worth it so far!
Providing I keep at least 50% of what I gained in post cycle therapy (pct) I will be stoked!
It's bloody hard to put on this much muscle naturally! Especially when you are over 30!
 
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OK started arimidex as said.
How do you guys split the pills? I will have to get a pill splitter from the pharmacy...
My weight is steady for now strength going up.
I had a couple of days where I felt a bit flat and tired. Does this happen to anyone while on?
 
It could've been another factor... Fighting off a cold or something, over training, sometimes people feel lethargic if their estro is too high...
 
Ok finished my two shots of 500 of hcg for first week. Should I keep doing 500 one more week. Also I dropped a few pounds on after arimidex. Is that normal?
It seems that I am getting leaner now and stronger weight gain has stopped. I upped calories but it doesn't seems to move any more.
 
Question about hcg.
My friend has a 5000 iu ampule. If he uses bac water can he use an old prop bottle as he cannot land a clean bottle. I got mine in a bottle already made.
 
austar said:
Ok finished my two shots of 500 of hcg for first week. Should I keep doing 500 one more week. Also I dropped a few pounds on after arimidex. Is that normal?
It seems that I am getting leaner now and stronger weight gain has stopped. I upped calories but it doesn't seems to move any more.
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It wouldnt hurt to run it at 500 for one more week...
The weight you dropped from using adex was bloat/water weight from the estro....

austar said:
Question about hcg.
My friend has a 5000 iu ampule. If he uses bac water can he use an old prop bottle as he cannot land a clean bottle. I got mine in a bottle already made.
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I would buy a sterile vacuum sealed bottle and not reuse a old vial.
 
ythrashin said:
It wouldnt hurt to run it at 500 for one more week...
The weight you dropped from using adex was bloat/water weight from the estro....



I would buy a sterile vacuum sealed bottle and not reuse a old vial.
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Cant get it anywhere! Just thinking if it is worth using the old bottle.
 
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